Gun Control

[franklin]

If anything is done, it has to be a multifaceted approach. Just blaming these incidents on mental illness is about as useful as saying "Guns don't kill, people kill". I'd like to see more done along the lines of what's taken place over the last 25 years with cigarette smoking and drunk driving. Personally I'd like to ban certain weapons and ammo altogether, but aside from that, how about a campaign to make certain behaviors more socially unacceptable - like using certain extremely destructive ammunition, keeping guns unsecured and easily accessible to other family members, ban advertising for certain types of weapons and ammunition, stuff like that. Folks would absolutely howl, but if it could be done for smoking, why not?

I don't think that's much of an issue outside the NRA types.

And I know this is going to sound like the old fogey that I am, but does anyone else think there might be some connection to violent video games and movies? What typically is the target audience for those? What is the typical demographic of these mass murderers? Again, we need to do more to make these things negative influences more socially unacceptable so young people will be less exposed to that level of violence.

I don't buy the video game line one bit. No offense of course, but it's the same old narative that was pushed after printing presses led to kids getting sucked into story books. I don't envision people being so terrible to be influenced by a little fantasy. Video games or a kid using an imagination on a paper route, it's all the same. We had comics then, video games now. There isn't a difference to why they're attractive. It's all mental fantasy and stimulation.

The issue with these mass murders is entirely psychological. These folks are pushed to some edge by society, whether real or perceived. If I were to take a compasionate route then I'd look to culture not only alienating these people but going far enough to make them feel like detached deamons.

 

[Scat]

Are you trying to make a bad argument, or are you just as misguided and stupid as I know you are?

I'm just mimicking your argument.

Let's get to the real issue here: There isn't enough god in schools.

I decided I'd bring the heat for Scat.

On no! Not the heat!! What does this have anything to do with gun control. Misguided and stupid indeed.

 

[Scat]

Yeah man! BOOM! Look out, Scat is on the war path!

Says the point man on the war path.

 

[NUMBERICA]

I'm just mimicking your argument.

Oh ****! "I know you are but what am I"? Compelling stuff.

 

[franklin]

NUMB & Gyp tag team trolling the hell out of this thread.

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When Salty has to push an agenda, Salty has to push an agenda.

 

[Hotdog]

Stop, just stop. Virtually everyone on here who owns a gun has needed it to defend their home at some point. Life or death, man.

Haha. What?

How many people have you shot?

 

[NUMBERICA]

Says the point man on the war path.

I guess so. I think you're a steaming pile of **** with an intellect to match, so it is what it is I guess.

 

[Duck Rodgers]

Gonna keep ranting:

That something CAN do good does not mean that it WILL do good.

Tell us something about government that we didn't know. That's the whole premise, never delivers . Leaving those guys as the only ones being armed is beyond insanity.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Tell us something about government that we didn't know. That's the whole premise, never delivers . Leaving those guys the only ones being armed is beyond insanity.

The moon-landing was a hoax is definitely the best argument that Joe the Plumber should have access to AKs.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

Haha. What?

How many people have you shot?

I shot myself once. But it wasn't bullets that were fired.

 

[NUMBERICA]

I'm going to duck out of this. The point below is ultimately the one I would like to emphasize most.

That something CAN do good does not mean that it WILL do good. It's all about balance. Is there any possible way giving lunatics and morons deadly force with extreme ease a net positive?

Good huntin', everyone.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

Way to deflect and prolong such gun-toting idiocy.

franklin, you're a joke.

 

[Hotdog]

I shot myself once. But it wasn't bullets that were fired.

You shot your load off in your face or something? Lol. Did you take extra zinc?

 

[franklin]

franklin, you're a joke.

Answer the question: What kind of person uses a massacre to jump on their soap box driving a marginalized agenda?
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[Gyp Rosetti]

Answer the question: What kind of person uses a massacre to jump on their soap box driving a marginalized agenda?
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Jump on their soapbox? This whole thread was started to discuss gun control you dumbass.

 

[Chad Feldheimer]

How come you can buy assault rifles at Big 5 but not flame throwers or grenades? You know for "home protection" purposes?

 

[franklin]

Jump on their soapbox? This whole thread was started to discuss gun control you dumbass.

Classy.
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Doesn't explain you pushing a very marginalized agenda like a luny vagrant standing on top a soap box and uninterested in facts or genuine discussion. Those guys aren't afraid to tell everyone else how stupid they are either.

 

[larryselbows]

Nassim Nicholas Taleb had a great quote today: "Now gun control may or may not work. But I doubt it will INCREASE these incidents. Which is why we should always analyse regulation in terms of upside/downside."

 

[larryselbows]

... and this guy is anti-government regulation on virtually everything.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

Classy.
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Doesn't explain you pushing a very marginalized agenda like a luny vagrant standing on top a soap box and uninterested in facts or genuine discussion. Those guys aren't afraid to tell everyone else how stupid they are either.

Yeah, that's what I'm doing. Dumbass.