He's just really inconsistent. When the team is struggling he couldn't ignite or carry us.
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He's just really inconsistent. When the team is struggling he couldn't ignite or carry us.
DutchJazzer
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I also agree that we can move Marvin and not lose much. Carroll can step into that role, although he's a bit undersized. I think a few of these vets know they're not under contract for next year, or they might opt out, so they're not giving 100% effort.
CAKAR
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Like i said before Hayward is very overrated, he will never be the player, this board expect on him to be. he has no consistent jump shot, is a horrible horrible rebounder, an average defender, at most an average passer and ballhandler. His size is not something special ,for a guard he is not quick enough and is not playing with heart.
The only thing he is good at is running at fastbreaks, taking contact to get to the line and shooting freethrows with high percentage.
With a better coach, he can only become a solid role player.
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Even Burks has much more talent than Hayward, he can be a better defender, he is better at taking contact and going to the line , is playing with much more heart and is a great rebounding Guard. He´s better at ballhandling and with a good coach he can be a good passer, too.
The only thing he is good at is running at fastbreaks, taking contact to get to the line and shooting freethrows with high percentage.
With a better coach, he can only become a solid role player.
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Even Burks has much more talent than Hayward, he can be a better defender, he is better at taking contact and going to the line , is playing with much more heart and is a great rebounding Guard. He´s better at ballhandling and with a good coach he can be a good passer, too.
The Thriller
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DeliveryBoy
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I seriously do not get Corbin's infatuation with Foye. He contributes 3 point shooting, if he's on, AND NOTHING ELSE.
-Poor ball handler
-Poor defender
-Can't create shots
-Mediocre passer
-Doesn't get to the line
And he played 24 minutes tonight. Marvin is getting a ton of blame, but he was only a -13; Foye was -15, the highest on the team. And with the zone GS was playing, this should have been Foye's moment to shine.
I really hope he was only signed so that the Jazz would have an extra expiring contract at the trade deadline, because otherwise he just makes no sense.
-Poor ball handler
-Poor defender
-Can't create shots
-Mediocre passer
-Doesn't get to the line
And he played 24 minutes tonight. Marvin is getting a ton of blame, but he was only a -13; Foye was -15, the highest on the team. And with the zone GS was playing, this should have been Foye's moment to shine.
I really hope he was only signed so that the Jazz would have an extra expiring contract at the trade deadline, because otherwise he just makes no sense.
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This.
I thought everyone was pretty bad tonight... it just seemed like one of those games.
And the refs seemed pretty bad too.
Gyp Rosetti
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I'm excited. Hopefully the crappiness can continue. Actually, hopefully it gets worse. The Millers would probably be so dumb they'd promote Horny.
Crawlnstall
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I could only watch about one quarter of this game it was so bad. Terrible, terrible, terrible PG play. Every time Tinsley or Watson make a pass I cringe. How could our FO and coaching staff think that these two guys could be even half way decent back ups? If Mo is out for an extended period of time we are screwed. I am so upset over how crappy the Jazz played, I knew they would lose...but it didnt even look like they tried or had a solid gameplan
JGolds
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Jgolds observed the following. Starters play with lack of heart, and the just play for themselves.
mo was more improtant to our ball movment and pase of the gamet then i thought.
jefferson needs to go.
corbin needs to learn the nba isnt like nba 2k12 you cant go into the settings and change the other teams shot success, you have to make adjustments in your own line up
jazfanzs need to remember this isnt the worse season we have ever had, and that with a few needed udjustments we could get right back into the season.
i am still hoping for a trade.
mo was more improtant to our ball movment and pase of the gamet then i thought.
jefferson needs to go.
corbin needs to learn the nba isnt like nba 2k12 you cant go into the settings and change the other teams shot success, you have to make adjustments in your own line up
jazfanzs need to remember this isnt the worse season we have ever had, and that with a few needed udjustments we could get right back into the season.
i am still hoping for a trade.
I've missed most of the games. Mostly because I don't have cable, but also because it's hard to dedicate your night to watching ~20 minutes of a game and largely not give a **** about the remaining ~30.
MVP
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No, they are not all-star level talent. Neither of them can be a dominant player who could lead the team. They may develop into good/decent complimentary players - warriors as to say, not generals.
mellow
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Marvin the Ghost, is the only starter who is under contract after this season. Foye and Tinsley got to realize that Utah was their last rodeo. Al and Milsap know that Enes & Favors are right behind them. Is it any wonder why the starters play like they do?
I believe it was managments plan all along. Play the vets to see if the playoffs were possible, if that plan fails play the young guys and convince the fans that the young guys are exciting.
Except that in the process, the Jazz have arguably stunted the growth of these same players. Especially with such inspired moves as burying perhaps your most talented young player behind a one-year rental that's never been a very good player.