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A Brief History of #3 Overall Picks and Playing Time

LunaticWolf said:
Harden > Sefolosha
Mayo > Jaric and Ross
Horford > Pachulia
Morrison -=- Carroll
Williams > Milt/Keith
Gordon > Piatkowski
Anthony > White
Dunleavy < Jamison
Gasol > Wright
Miles -=- Maggs

Favors >? Millsap
Kanter >? Jefferson
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yap. favors > millsap and kanter > jefferson since both play on both ends, care about winning, have a good motor, hustle and do the little things. just give starter minutes to favors and kanter and see what happens: both would average double doubles. how many bigmen average double doubles in this league? many here overrate millsap and jefferson and underrate kanter and favors. at least they don't get outrebounded and burned on the defensive end. i'd rather have rawer players that get 100 percent once they are on the floor. these two guys are already average to above average bigmen in this league despite being so young and not getting much playing time. give them playing time and let them make mistakes. they can get the best big man duo in this league soon! treat them the way they deserve!
 
The point of this thread is that all the other teams in the nba put thier #3 picks on the court more than the jazz regardless of who else is on the roster.... the jazz could make room for favors and enes to get more minutes but they dont. (like playing millsap at the 3 if they wont cut back on al and pauls minutes)

Lunatic said himself that jamison was better than dunleavy... but dunleavy was still given more minutes than our guys.
 
underkanter said:
yap. Favors > millsap and kanter > jefferson since both play on both ends, care about winning, have a good motor, hustle and do the little things. Just give starter minutes to favors and kanter and see what happens: Both would average double doubles. How many bigmen average double doubles in this league? Many here overrate millsap and jefferson and underrate kanter and favors. At least they don't get outrebounded and burned on the defensive end. I'd rather have rawer players that get 100 percent once they are on the floor. These two guys are already average to above average bigmen in this league despite being so young and not getting much playing time. Give them playing time and let them make mistakes. They can get the best big man duo in this league soon! Treat them the way they deserve!
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championship!1!!!!1!1!!11
 
LunaticWolf said:
He got 15 minutes per game with Jamison.

Thats a lot less bro
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Kanter got 13 per game rookie year and 14 per game this year....15 minutes is less minutes than 13 or 14? damn my math sucks
 
Its funny cause first the excuse was that those other guys got minutes cause thier teams suck.... then we find out that alot of those teams had better records than the jazz.
That excuse was shot down by infections post

Couldn't it just be that corbin plays the guys that he plays because of thier age?
I mean even hayward is alot better than all of our wings and should be getting 30+ minutes per game. What is the excuse for him not playing that much?
 
LunaticWolf said:
championship!1!!!!1!1!!11
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you have 10 times the chance of winning a championship in the future (starting after the next three or two years) with favors and kanter instead of shortysap and fatman al. those two defensive liabilities might bring you the 8th seed but nothing more. have fun getting kicked out in the first round against okc, the spurs or clippers. it's time for the youth movement.

i have a mancrush on kanter, favors, hayward and burks. i might be biased but i'm realistic, too. you guys way overrate shortysap and fatboy al.
 
LunaticWolf said:
He got 15 minutes per game with Jamison.
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Yes, in his rookie year. In his second and third year, as Kanter and Favors are currently, he played 30+ in each.

If we had obtained Lillard, there's no way on earth we'd see enough to absolutely say Lillard > Williams. We'd feel comfortable in knowing that Mo is experienced and has proven himself that clearly Mo > Lillard, and quite frankly most would probably agree. Since, in reality, we didn't get Lillard, we see quite clearly that despite being an inexperienced rookie, Lillard is most certainly superior to Williams, a former all-star.

P.S. thanks for the negative rep.
 
infection said:
Yes, in his rookie year. In his second and third year, as Kanter and Favors are currently, he played 30+ in each.

If we had obtained Lillard, there's no way on earth we'd see enough to absolutely say Lillard > Williams. We'd feel comfortable in knowing that Mo is experienced and has proven himself that clearly Mo > Lillard, and quite frankly most would probably agree. Since, in reality, we didn't get Lillard, we see quite clearly that despite being an inexperienced rookie, Lillard is most certainly superior to Williams, a former all-star.

P.S. thanks for the negative rep.
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I said it a 100000 times, but I'm glad we didn't get Lillard or else his talents would be wasted. I would be pretty pissed at the Jazz office, but I cannot blame Kanter and Favors leaving this organization. Its ok though, I'm sure some washed up vet would love to replace them on a 1 yr contract. FAN ****ING TASTIC. :D
 
It'll be hillarious in 4-5 years when the youth movement fanatics start screeching TRADE SEXUAL FAVORS YOUTH MOVEMENTZZ!
 
franklin said:
It'll be hillarious in 4-5 years when the youth movement fanatics start screeching TRADE SEXUAL FAVORS YOUTH MOVEMENTZZ!
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I'll assume your derailment of the argument as acquiescence.
 
UGLI baby said:
*slits wrists*
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Make sure you do it right.....



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franklin said:
It'll be hillarious in 4-5 years when the youth movement fanatics start screeching TRADE SEXUAL FAVORS YOUTH MOVEMENTZZ!
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Sure we will if there is a better player than them on the bench...... and just like now, we would be correct..... but i think it is unlikely for that to happen.
 
infection said:
Yes, in his rookie year. In his second and third year, as Kanter and Favors are currently, he played 30+ in each.
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And which Jamison was no longer on the team. There was no better wing player than Dunleavy to take those minutes in year 2 and 3.

And your Lillard spiel is retarded evidenced by Deron's minutes. It completely blows up your idea of how this team is run.

P.S. You must have posted something really stupid then. I don't give out much.
 
franklin said:
It'll be hillarious in 4-5 years when the youth movement fanatics start screeching TRADE SEXUAL FAVORS YOUTH MOVEMENTZZ!
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Don't you know, there's always better players just waiting to be drafted. They always turn out to be allstars as long as they get the playing time.
 
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