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bigmike said:
That's the knack on McLemore. He really plays within the team and doesn't look for his offense maybe as much as he should like Muhammad and Smart do. His mentality is best suited to be the 2nd/3rd option on a contender. But no question he's a top-5 talent in this draft.

And in all fairness, that performance came a week after he lit up Kansas St for 30 points on 13 shots. And he had 23 on Ok. State in their first meeting on 17 FGA.

Guys have bad games. It happens.
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yes but are we gonna pretend like smart didnt go and blow up their whole season and 28 home game winning streak, in unbelievably spectacular fashion(best solo act ive seen thus far)

this game was ben's chance at revenge, and he folded

bens talented, waste of space in a bunker. its that simple for me. and bill self is a turd if your taking credence in him saying hes better then deron... im flabbergasted, deron was being compared to MJ by bob knight in college.

he was cant miss, ben mclemore is overrated, vastly, and has character concerns. should i cite the efficiency of some 3-5million dollar shooting guards in the nba, his best case is JR Smith, who i think very highly of. not worth a top 5pick.
 
Otto Porter is a prototypical SF physically, although just a bit skinny. That could help his draft stock if GMs think guys like Isaiah Austin and Anthony Bennett don't quite fit neatly into a position.
 
Id Pick Anthony Bennett to play SG/SF in the top 5 before id take Ben Mclemore, Both were 'PF's' in HS.. Mclemore to me is like the thaddeus young of 2/3s.

I think these players should be viewed in the sense of 'can they be effective peices in a cog' (either inside or, outside rotations) judging someone on if they are fit in a historical sense to a role they may or may not fit, has already been debunked - in my book

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if these 'undefined' players establish a role they are already more valuable then the collective opinion without actually improving anything(if they start improving in that role, you have eric bledsoe[alpha asset]),

i do think theres an Alpha strategy going after these undefined undervalued players, IF you believe they can be a successful piece to what your team is currently built for, thats why this flexibility is great.
 
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PointGod_AlecBurks said:
There are 14 active NBA players who attended U of Kansas. Cole Aldrich, Mario Chalmers, Nick Collison, Drew Gooden, Xavier Henry, Kirk Hinrich, Marcus Morris, Markeiff Morris, Paul Pierce, Josh Selby, Brandon Rush, Darnell Jackson, Julian Wright, and Darrell Arthur.
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Let's have a UK/KU alumni game! ^^^^^^^^^^ those guys.. vs;

Rondo
Wall
Bledsoe
Knight
MKG
Davis
Cousins
Prince
Hayes

Orton
Liggins
DMiller
Teague
DLamb
TJones


I'm sure I forgot some, but we already dominate to laughable proportions.
 
pointgod_alecburks said:
id pick anthony bennett to play sg/sf in the top 5 before id take ben mclemore, both were 'pf's' in hs.. Mclemore to me is like the thaddeus young of 2/3s.

I think these players should be viewed in the sense of 'can they be effective peices in a cog' (either inside or, outside rotations) judging someone on if they are fit in a historical sense to a role they may or may not fit, has already been debunked - in my book
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*sf/pf
 
PKM said:
Let's have a UK/KU alumni game! ^^^^^^^^^^ those guys.. vs;

Rondo
Wall
Bledsoe
Knight
MKG
Davis
Cousins
Prince
Hayes

Orton
Liggins
DMiller
Teague
DLamb
TJones


I'm sure I forgot some, but we already dominate to laughable proportions.
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ill take the wake forest team vs kansas anyday of the week too. (and they have as many nba players as Kentucky pumps out annually)

Duncan, James Johnson, Al-Farooq Aminu, Jeff Teague, CP3.
Ish Smith and Josh Howard off the bench.
 
I like McLemore, I just think it would be silly to pick a SG in the top 3 that can't consistently create his own shot.
 
PKM said:
Just saying Bennett is a 3/4 .. not a 2/3, is all.
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ah okies, like i said im not that hung up on actual listed positions.

i find it peculiar these days when a player has an obvious defined position. i think that works in the favor of lets say otto porter, and conversely works against McLemore.

Bennett fits as the biggest guy in a wing rotation, and the smallest guy in a big-man rotation. i think we can all agree on that
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
ah okies, like i said im not that hung up on actual listed positions.

i find it peculiar these days when a player has an obvious defined position. i think that works in the favor of lets say otto porter, and conversely works against McLemore.

Bennett fits as the biggest guy in a wing rotation, and the smallest guy in a big-man rotation. i think we can all agree on that
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Agree with all of this post, actually. I just too often see people take it too far to the extreme..
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Drafting a SG who can't make his own offense #1 overall? Dumb ****.
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Conversely, he can score all of his points strictly opportunistically (doesn't need to burn team possessions) and can completely grind down anyone defensively on the perimeter. If his shot doesn't translate and if he doesn't sustain some kind of career-threatening injury, he will be The Monopoly Guy's Ronnie Brewer at least. Ron Artest without the bull ****.
 
PKM said:
Agree with all of this post, actually. I just too often see people take it too far to the extreme..
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ive been known to take things well past the extreme, infact, most of this captain morgan's is already gone and the game hasn't even started.

i dont want to flood posts while im drunk, but i want to ask you one question though pkm.

Karl Towns Jr vs. Isaiah Austin. i understand fully that towns is the better prospect... every piece of footage ive seen is jaw-dropping. im under the assumption that towns is an obvious #1 overall pick

just wondering how you view this comparison, and im aware of the gap in passing abilities and whats said of Austin and his demeanor, ive listened to both of them speak, extensively.

im really intrigued of your opinion when you look at it, just on an athletecism/skill/potential basis what you see.
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
ive been known to take things well past the extreme, infact, most of this captain morgan's is already gone and the game hasn't even started.

i dont want to flood posts while im drunk, but i want to ask you one question though pkm.

Karl Towns Jr vs. Isaiah Austin. i understand fully that towns is the better prospect... every piece of footage ive seen is jaw-dropping. im under the assumption that towns is an obvious #1 overall pick

just wondering how you view this comparison, and im aware of the gap in passing abilities and whats said of Austin and his demeanor, ive listened to both of them speak, extensively.

im really intrigued of your opinion when you look at it, just on an athletecism/skill/potential basis what you see.
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Interesting. Very, actually.

Towns is still VERY young. I moved up a class in order to come in to college two years from now .. that is yoooooooouung...

Having said that, the guys is filled out, 7', and understands the game really well.

I'm afraid Austin won't add enough bulk. Love his shot (especially midrange/18'ers) and his ball handling ability. I've never seen anything that screams he's going to be "GOOD", but I'm sure he'll be a very nice player. Towns should be special, but I think it's too early to tell (though he can dribble either hand, shoot either hand, and has range).

Sorry, I know I didn't say much. I'm just not seeing the 'it' factor in Austin (I know you do), but am anxious to see how he develops and strengthens.
 
PKM said:
Interesting. Very, actually.

Towns is still VERY young. I moved up a class in order to come in to college two years from now .. that is yoooooooouung...

Having said that, the guys is filled out, 7', and understands the game really well.

I'm afraid Austin won't add enough bulk. Love his shot (especially midrange/18'ers) and his ball handling ability. I've never seen anything that screams he's going to be "GOOD", but I'm sure he'll be a very nice player. Towns should be special, but I think it's too early to tell (though he can dribble either hand, shoot either hand, and has range).

Sorry, I know I didn't say much. I'm just not seeing the 'it' factor in Austin (I know you do), but am anxious to see how he develops and strengthens.
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TY for the honesty. i forget about that he can shoot with both hands, basketball is going to be amazing for the next few years. id just like to point out its almost exactly a 2 year age difference(and maybe 2" height dif), you gotta reach out of the class for comparisons with these dirk types.

im not sure Isaiah definitely has 'it' either, but i have always thought he does, and as time passes from when i first picked him up on my radar, he continues to exceed my expectations(not by leaps and bounds, but consistently out-performs what i think hes gonna do.. which is how i prefer my bigs to improve...)

back when i made my first post on my initial account pootie tang, it was about Austin and a list of this years C's, before CBB started, if i told you guys then hed lead the SEC in rebs, youd have called me crazy and made skinny jokes. (i didnt think he could do it either)

i think karl towns might have a defined position at 4, and be like the kevin durant of playing 4.. isaiah's got no defined position certainly, which intrigues me. if lets say Isaiah were to define himself as a 4, and show consistent marginal improvement in that skillset, hes going to be an UNREAL matchup nightmare, the type that no team really has an answer for. If he defines his role at 5 thats a whole different story, hes gotta put on weight.

i love the troika of (Favors - Kanter - Austin) i think they would have great synergies in a rotation. thats the extent of my Austin hysteria. I do believe trading up for him is the best thing we can do in this draft. and im hopeful we do it, i watched my knicks draft Gallinari and andy rautins when our head coach(D'Antoni) was best friends with their fathers... Ty Corbin is Isaiah Austin's god-father, maybe its not that farfetched.
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
TY for the honesty. i forget about that he can shoot with both hands, basketball is going to be amazing for the next few years. id just like to point out its almost exactly a 2 year age difference(and maybe 2" height dif), you gotta reach out of the class for comparisons with these dirk types.

im not sure Isaiah definitely has 'it' either, but i have always thought he does, and as time passes from when i first picked him up on my radar, he continues to exceed my expectations(not by leaps and bounds, but consistently out-performs what i think hes gonna do.. which is how i prefer my bigs to improve...)

back when i made my first post on my initial account pootie tang, it was about Austin and a list of this years C's, before CBB started, if i told you guys then hed lead the SEC in rebs, youd have called me crazy and made skinny jokes. (i didnt think he could do it either)

i think karl towns might have a defined position at 4, and be like the kevin durant of playing 4.. isaiah's got no defined position certainly, which intrigues me. if lets say Isaiah were to define himself as a 4, and show consistent marginal improvement in that skillset, hes going to be an UNREAL matchup nightmare, the type that no team really has an answer for. If he defines his role at 5 thats a whole different story, hes gotta put on weight.

i love the troika of (Favors - Kanter - Austin) i think they would have great synergies in a rotation. thats the extent of my Austin hysteria. I do believe trading up for him is the best thing we can do in this draft. and im hopeful we do it, i watched my knicks draft Gallinari and andy rautins when our head coach(D'Antoni) was best friends with their fathers... Ty Corbin is Isaiah Austin's god-father, maybe its not that farfetched.
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Nice post. But I don't see the Jazz packaging picks to move up to grab a big. Nope.
 
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