Links? As far as you have shown, a few instances of racism happened in New York one year.
That's just one study. If you really want to read more studies, more analyses, etc., there's a world of scholarship out there. Either you care or you don't. I done enough of your homework for one thread.
I understand this, and as far as I'm concerned does not change anything in what I stated, and adds nothing to the point.
OK. I just want to make sure you were aware there was more than just looking at the effects of a criminal record.
They do use data from the other teams. Specifically when they talk about when candidates are pushed down or up for different jobs than what they applied for it uses data from the other teams which muddies the water. Either use all of the data all the time, or some of the data some of the time, not back and forth.
No, that was data from Team 1 and Team 2. You may it hard to believe, but they manage to track not only whether they were offered a job, but which job they were offered and the job for which they applied, without their heads exploding.
So you will discount my life studies as worthless, but will give credence to a pretend job searcher because it's part of a study, or because it fits your needs better?
Not being data does not make something worthless. I give credence to life stories/anecdotes because they help me understand why people think they way they do. For example, your story told me that you think since you life and the life of people around you has struggles, that other people who complain about the additional struggles placed upon them need to behave more like you and your friends. As long as the deck is stacked in your favor, other players just need to play better poker.
How so?
(but race of person to train was)
Yes, the race of all three applicants was described in the anecdote starting on page 4, since the effects of race on job applicants was the focus of the study.
Nice try, race of those hiring is mentioned in the report.
Quote it, then.
Also to be clear, I don't think it is as huge as you make it out to be.
Based on what evidence?
Could it be you are the one projecting?
I'm starting to think I am projecting what I see in me onto you.
Because my friend, then you could see how much of a two way street these racial tendencies are.
Your ignorance is profound. One of the more well-known, studied phenomena is the tendency for many black people who have offered an opportunity to decide that they are "one of the good ones". Hence, men who benefited from affirmative action, such as Clarence Thomas, reject the process for the next generation. Black managers don't want to be seen by their district managers as bringing down the business, so they are even more careful to hire white people, and ride their few black employees much harder. The two-way street you imagine comes from your ignorance and fear.
You just might see that black hiring managers will tend to be more comfortable with the black applicants and hire them more often than an applicant of another race all things being equal.
*You* might, but the reality is otherwise.
I could go into more detail, but that should be enough to give a normal person an understanding of what I mean. Let me know if you need more filler words or something.
Please. You're echoing the point of view I can see in every mainstream pundit, every news channel, documentaries, movies, TV programs, political speeches, etc. There is no mystery to it, and little truth.
Yes, when you say something stupid, it sounds stupid,
It is what it is, whether I call it that or not. As I said, I'm not doing more of your homework for you. I no longer think you care enough to learn the truth.
Let me explain it to you as I would to any rational circle thinking adult.
You would need to follow that up with a rational argument.
" Okay Biff, now if every single black hiring manager gave the black applicants a call back that would only require from the two teams for there to be 23 out of over 500 hiring managers to be black"
Really, every black manager encountered can offer a job to 100% of the black applicants who walk through his door? This is the "rational" position you care to throw out? Or, you mean by pure coincidence, every black applicant in the survey, leaving out the dozens/hundreds of other applicants who would not have been in the survey? Your position is fundamentally irrational and clearly not well thought-out.
So you completely did not get what my point was,
In all honesty, I never expected you to make such claim. I clearly have been projecting onto you qualities you do not posses.
In a controlled environment. What happens when they get out there in live situations? id these applicants train with the Marines for years ...
What happens is that black/Latino people deal with white people every day if they go to a school like Rutgers, so they don't have any greater degree of disease that can't be overcome by training.
However, it's interesting that you have to think Marine training is needed to deal with people from a different race and be at ease. Very interesting indeed.
... use it as your main backup as to why you think the way you think.
Again, there are decades of research and a whole slew of studies in different locations using different methodologies.
That's rich. Give me moar.
I've cast enough pearl. Go root if you need more.
So anyone who sees those same actions and yet does not perceive them the same way you do, must have their head buried in the sand? Genius!
Of course everyone perceives them differently, and yes, if you never have to confront the difficulties of privilege being used against you, you have to deliberately raise your head from the sand to see it.
And the super sensitive think everyone is a jerk and out to get them.
You have confused privilege and persecution.
Not quite. That would be do unto others what you would have them do unto you. Not really do whatever others want you to do so you don't offend them.
So, you want to be belittled, marginalized, and ignored?
Oh, I was translating what you were saying.
YOu did it badly.
Meh. Sometimes I feel like you are trying to take my Vizzini gig and show people your dizzying intellect and reason circles around them.
It offends me, I am the fake Vizzini, not you.
I cede you the position. I'm still serious that I think you don't want to say hurtful things.
As to the last line... I am definitely too lazy to go through and read your posts again to point out ...
So far, attempts to point it out have been met by my acting just like I say other people should. My confusion has been about why this was not obvious.
