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I thought the general theme of this thread was that the 12/13th man didn't matter that much and it'd be cool to give the roster spot to a gay guy.

****ing retarded

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I didn't ask what the general theme of this thread was, I asked you to show me where I said that the Jazz should sign Collins "just cuz he likes dudes."

Get the story straight, please.

I take it that when you say ****retarded, you're referring to yourself.
 
In fairness to Broussard, nobody was talking about adultery, so he had no reason to bring it up.

You are correct, I didn't catch that earlier. I guess good for him.

Now about all those other things the OT forbids (e.g., wearing clothes woven from two cloths, not having sex with menstruating women), or even the NT by Paul (women shouldn't speak in church). Or how about violating sabbath day--that's, after all, one of the 10 biggies? Where's the outrage about violating these things?

The Bible is the ultimate cafeteria plan for believers--pick and choose what suits you, particularly where it comes to those things that reinforce your pre-existing biases/prejudices.
 
I think the only way to solve this is to put Beantown, dutchjazzer, OneBrow, and Xsy all in a shower together and see who gets the first boner.

Win. This should end the thread. How are you the only one who sees how ridiculous this whole thing is?
 
Even so how could his body physicaly get aroused with a woman? Let alone for 7 years. You could put a gun to my head, beat me up, steal my money, make me lose my job, make fun of me, torment me..etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.

There is no way I could get a boner with a guy. No way in hell. Its simply impossible.


100% agreed.
only way i am getting a boner of a guy is if you blindfold me tie me up and tell me i'm getting a oral exam from a female.
when in fact a male will be giving that exam.


thats why i think it is a some form of choice.

not exactly a wake up in the morning and say "i'm gonna **** men" kinda choice.
but still some form unconscious choice
 
Ugh, Dutch... :(.

It's not a choice.

And please don't say "I love gay people but I THINK YOU'RE ALL LIARS."

what because i think they are liars i do not love them. i was a very naughty kid. lied my *** off to my parents about things in my youth. they mostly knew those where lies.
i was the biggest liar in the neighbrourhood my parents/family and friends still love me.
i do tell some lies now and again to my fiance, yet as far as i know she still loves me.
so not because i think gays are liars dont mean i dont love them ;)

Have you ever wondered why suicide is an epidemic among LGBT youth?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_among_LGBT_youth

Its because when they were growing up, they were told being gay is wrong. They don't want to be gay, so they spend years fighting their urges-- eventually it drives them so insane that they literally kill themselves.
suicide aint a problem bro, suicide is just natural selection if someone is to weak to live/survive. they die wheter by their own hand or some one else.
it's a law of nature.
whenerver i hear someone commited suicide. wheter it be LGBT, black, chine, hatian, puerto rican, martian, jew, male, female, youth, senoir, homeless, jobless, ceo or whatever. i go sucks for their loved ones but hey good riddance they where weak and it is ust natural selection.
don't you think because i am not lgbt i have no real live problems? or because i'm not lgbt i don't have insurmountable odds in life and thought about suicde.

so whenever someone commits suicide i dont wonder why. it's just a law of mother nature.

The evidence is OUTSTANDING. Thousands and thousands of LGBT people saying "I was born this way" is proof enough. You can't just say "I don't believe they were born that way" and that's that. You have to actually ****ing listen to people and look at how they react to those statements. If being gay was a choice, people would just choose to be straight instead of killing themselves.

Start acting like a ****ing grownup and realize how idiotic you are when you say **** like this.
not because thousands of people say something makes it so.
the whole frickin world said earth was flat. did it make the earth flat now.
so if a thousand people say they where born this way is proof.
then we have different defitintions of proof.
there is no undeniable truth so far. who knows maybe one day there will be. sometimes in science you prove something. but when science advances beyond a point your previous established proof gets to be an untruth.
there is no undeniable truth that it aint a choice. so until ou come with real tangible proof. i can believe whatever i want. freedom of believe/choice and speech.

i'm sorry if i offended you and or hurt you. i am just speaking my (retarded on this subject according to you) mind.
 
So is no one else amazed by the fact that Dutch watched 15 minutes of gay porn just to confirm to himself he wasn't gay?

nah no one else.

cus it is normal. people jsut wont admit it.

like the fact back in highschool when everybody would lie their *** of that they don't **********.
you would get laughed at. difference was i just said yes so what.

or in college when no one would say they would orrally exam a girl ;)?
in reality they where all doing it left and right.

so yeah why should they be amazed
 
He could be bisexual. But for all we know, he could be straight up gay. If he is 100% gay, he was in denial. Denial is EXTREMELY powerful. You have no idea how powerful denial is. No one WANTS to be gay. No one WANTS to be condemned and hated. Growing up as a homosexual in certain cultures (Mormon culture, black culture, muslim culture, aka any culture that's critical of homosexuals) will seriously mess up your entire concept of sexuality. Even though I grew up knowing I was attracted to men, I forced myself to believe that I was NOT gay. Because I was Mormon, and I wanted to go on a mission, and my patriarchal blessing told me I would find a wife. So I knew I would find a woman. I just knew it.

Turns out my denial was just ridiculously powerful and I had a midlife crisis at the age of 19 and finally came to terms with myself before leaving on a mission.

You grew up as the majority instead of a minority. Check your privilege and stop belittling others for not having the same privilege.


i hope it was not a midlife crissis.
cus if it was you would only live to be 38.
thats way to young to die
 
I think the only way to solve this is to put Beantown, dutchjazzer, OneBrow, and Xsy all in a shower together and see who gets the first boner.


so when do i get to shower with those other guys.
need to reserve a hotel and plainticket.

atleats i would get awesome foreplay from some fat old TSA guy or maybe even if i am lucky group groping from tsa guys.

also do you guys know that xsy might not get a boner if he is showering with us?
he might not find us all that attractive.

cus if a straight up heterosexual was showering with 3 Ugly fat hairy girls he would not get a boner.

so we might be the equivalent of 3 fat ugly hairy girls to xsy
 
For a guy to have intercourse you would need an erect *****. Maybe your Mom should be talking to you about this.

If you are manipulated, your will be erect. The effect is automatic and not uner your concious control. Assuming you are human, that is.
 
#1-I grew up Mormon in Oklahoma City, me and my sister were the only LDS kids in our school. I had many friends where I was not allowed in their homes for parties or sleep overs, and definitely were never allowed at my home. Im not saying its the same but I understand growing up and in a minority and being the odd one. So don't just assume things about people.

#2Now I agree I need to take my own advice. I have no idea about other people's lives either. I have only been speaking for myself. My heterosexual desires are so strong(assuming homosexual feeling are the same) that I couldn't physically have sex with a man. So to think of Jason Collins being intimate with a woman for 7 years seems basically impossible to my point of view. So it really is hard to comprehend.

#3 Knowing that you are gay makes me love your signature 10 times more.

Sooooo after 17 times of someone announcing, unprovoked, that they really really dont want to have teh gay sex, do you start to think that maybe they are overcompensating a little? or do we need wait til 18 times with Bean??

@Bean, final answer bro....

Do you or do you not want to sex a dude??
 
Sooooo after 17 times of someone announcing, unprovoked, that they really really dont want to have teh gay sex, do you start to think that maybe they are overcompensating a little? or do we need wait til 18 times with Bean??

@Bean, final answer bro....

Do you or do you not want to sex a dude??

It seems like he really just wants to shower with them.
 
I really can't imagine Jason Collins playing for the Jazz team at all. I am not living in Utah but I can imagine him having problems in living there. From the previous posts in this thread, I can imagine that he would have problems with Jazz fans as well.

But one of the bigger problems would be in Jazz team itself; I can't see Collins playing with macho mucho players like Al Jefferson, Enes Kanter, Favors and the co. This really wouldn't fit for both sides. He'd better consider more liberal teams like L.A. Lakers, Boston Celtics or perhaps S.A. Spurs? I think staying with his team would be another good option for him...

I have seen in cnn that Karl Malone supporting Collins for coming out. Now that I read Malone was having problems with gay NBA players, was he making this to be publicly relevant?

I don't agree with the previous comments of this thread on the career of Jason Collins. From what I read, he's played in playoffs 9 times in his career, which is very good. Even though he was not a key player, he must be good enough to manage to play with those teams. I don't have statistics but I don't know any current player in Jazz who has similar records, including their "veteran" star players Al Jefferson, Paul Millsap, Mo Williams and others.
 
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