You'd think so, but the player they took in last year's draft was a project and they took a punt on him. I dunno, I just don't think it's Cuban's style to "play it safe".
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You'd think so, but the player they took in last year's draft was a project and they took a punt on him. I dunno, I just don't think it's Cuban's style to "play it safe".
What? If I'm not mistaken, Crabbe is the guy they were talking about "playing defense in a tuxedo".
Jazz4ever
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Random drivel from me on some targets...
Schroeder measured 6'7.75" on wingspan, a half inch larger than at the summit, and greater than any PG in the draft including MCW. His hand width is huge at 10.5', this will help him control the ball like a yoyo, as Rondo does with his huge mits.
Olynyk has to have the shortest wingspan ever for a 7 footer at 6'9.75", he will be providing zero help defense in the NBA unless its by taking charges. Don't want.
Len is a big unknown with his injury since he couldn't do the standing measurements? His wingspan is very good for a center at 7'3.5", but not elite, if Gobert and Adams excel in drills and tests, small chance he drops to 14 I think.
Dieng measured just shy of 6'11" but very good on wingspan and reach (7'3.5" and 9'3.5"). Bested Withey on both of them.
Caldwell Pope measured well with a 6'8" wingspan, 2.5" more than expected, with his great shooting stroke should help his stock.
Chad Ford mention Hardaway Jr had a 7' wingspan earlier but actual measurements show him at a very average 6'7"
Schroeder measured 6'7.75" on wingspan, a half inch larger than at the summit, and greater than any PG in the draft including MCW. His hand width is huge at 10.5', this will help him control the ball like a yoyo, as Rondo does with his huge mits.
Olynyk has to have the shortest wingspan ever for a 7 footer at 6'9.75", he will be providing zero help defense in the NBA unless its by taking charges. Don't want.
Len is a big unknown with his injury since he couldn't do the standing measurements? His wingspan is very good for a center at 7'3.5", but not elite, if Gobert and Adams excel in drills and tests, small chance he drops to 14 I think.
Dieng measured just shy of 6'11" but very good on wingspan and reach (7'3.5" and 9'3.5"). Bested Withey on both of them.
Caldwell Pope measured well with a 6'8" wingspan, 2.5" more than expected, with his great shooting stroke should help his stock.
Chad Ford mention Hardaway Jr had a 7' wingspan earlier but actual measurements show him at a very average 6'7"
Yeah, I was totally WTF disappointed on Hardaway's measurement after hearing 7' from Ford's mouth.
Otto Porter's 7'1.5 wingspan makes me salivate though. I wish we could get him.
Sexual Favors
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This all just made me want Schroeder and Wolters even more!
Maybe Jerry turned down the Bucks job because he is being hired to babysit Corbin, (one can dream).
Maybe Jerry turned down the Bucks job because he is being hired to babysit Corbin, (one can dream).
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Height w/o Shoes | Height with Shoes | Weight | Wingspan | Reach | Body Fat | Hand Length | Hand Width
Steven Adams
6'10.75'' | 7'0'' | 254.5 | 7'4.5'' | 9'1.5'' | 6.7 | 9.5 | 11
Vander Blue
6'3.5'' | 6'5.25'' | 197.4 | 6'6'' | 8'4.5'' | 4.6 | 8.5 | 9.5
Lorenzo Brown
6'4'' | 6'5.25'' | 189.2 | 6'7'' | 8'4'' | 4 | 8.25 | 8.5
Reggie Bullock
6'5.75'' | 6'7'' | 199.8 | 6'8.75'' | 8'6'' | 7 | 8.5 | 9
Trey Burke
5'11.75'' | 6'1.25'' | 187 | 6'5.5'' | 8'1.5'' | 6.9 | 8.25 | 8.75
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
6'4.5'' | 6'5.5'' | 203.6 | 6'8'' | 8'4.5'' | 6.5 | 8.5 | 9
Isaiah Canaan
5'11'' | 6'0'' | 188.4 | 6'4.5'' | 7'10.5'' | 5.9 | 8.25 | 9.5
Jackie Carmichael
6'7.5'' | 6'9'' | 241.2 | 7'1.5'' | 8'11'' | 5.8 | 9 | 10.25
Michael Carter-Williams
6'4.75'' | 6'5.75'' | 184.4 | 6'7.25'' | 8'5'' | 4.4 | 7.5 | 8.5
Will Clyburn
6'5.75'' | 6'7'' | 210.4 | 7'0.25'' | 8'9'' | 6.9 | 9.25 | 10.25
Robert Covington
6'6.25'' | 6'7.5'' | 208.6 | 7'1.75'' | 8'10'' | 4.7 | 9 | 8.5
Allen Crabbe
6'5.25'' | 6'6.25'' | 197.4 | 6'11.25'' | 8'7.5'' | 4.7 | 8.25 | 8.5
Seth Curry
6'1'' | 6'3'' | 179.2 | 6'4'' | 8'1.5'' | 9.6 | 8 | 8.25
Brandon Davies
6'8.5'' | 6'10.25'' | 241.8 | 7'1.5'' | 9'0.5'' | 8.6 | 9 | 11
DeWayne Dedmon
6'10'' | 6'11.5'' | 238.8 | 7'4'' | 9'1'' | 8.4 | 9 | 11
Gorgui Dieng
6'9.75'' | 6'10.75'' | 229.6 | 7'3.5'' | 9'3.5'' | 5.4 | 9 | 10
James Ennis
6'5.75'' | 6'7'' | 200.8 | 6'11.5'' | 8'8.5'' | 4.5 | 8.5 | 8.75
Carrick Felix
6'4.75'' | 6'6.25'' | 202.6 | 6'9.25'' | 8'7.5'' | 3.3 | 8.5 | 9.5
Jamaal Franklin
6'4'' | 6'5.25'' | 190.8 | 6'11.25'' | 8'7.5'' | 8.3 | 8.5 | 8.25
Rudy Gobert
7'0.5'' | 7'2'' | 237.6 | 7'8.5'' | 9'7'' | 4.4 | 9.75 | 10
Archie Goodwin
6'3.75'' | 6'5.25'' | 189 | 6'9.5'' | 8'6'' | 4.6 | 8.5 | 9
Erick Green
6'1.5'' | 6'3'' | 178.2 | 6'5.75'' | 8'2'' | 4.4 | 8.5 | 9
Tim Hardaway Jr.
6'4.5'' | 6'6.25'' | 199.4 | 6'7'' | 8'5'' | 6.1 | 8 | 9.25
Solomon Hill
6'5.5'' | 6'7'' | 226 | 6'9'' | 8'7'' | 7.6 | 9 | 10.5
Richard Howell
6'6.25'' | 6'7.5'' | 249.6 | 6'10.25'' | 8'9.5'' | 8.8 | 8.75 | 9.5
Colton Iverson
6'10.5'' | 7'0'' | 262.8 | 7'2'' | 9'2'' | 9.6 | 9.25 | 9.5
Pierre Jackson
5'9.5'' | 5'10.5'' | 176 | 5'10'' | 7'6'' | 4.5 | 7.5 | 8.25
Grant Jerrett
6'8.75'' | 6'10.25'' | 232 | 7'2'' | 9'1'' | 10.1 | 8.5 | 9.25
Myck Kabongo
6'1.25'' | 6'2.75'' | 180.4 | 6'6.25'' | 8'2'' | 6 | 8.25 | 9
Kenny Kadji
6'8.75'' | 6'10'' | 241.6 | 7'3'' | 8'10.5'' | 7.5 | 9 | 10.25
Ryan Kelly
6'9.75'' | 6'11.75'' | 228 | 6'11.5'' | 9'2'' | 14.8 | 9 | 10
Shane Larkin
5'10.25'' | 5'11.5'' | 170.8 | 5'10.75'' | 7'5.5'' | 3.8 | 7.5 | 8.75
Ricardo Ledo
6'4.75'' | 6'6'' | 197.2 | 6'7.25'' | 8'6.5'' | 10.3 | 8.5 | 9.25
Alex Len
N/A | N/A | N/A | 7'3.5'' | N/A | 6.4 | 9 | 10.75
C.J. Leslie
6'7.5'' | 6'8.75'' | 209.2 | 7'2.25'' | 8'8.5'' | 8 | 8.75 | 9
Trevor Mbakwe
6'6.75'' | 6'8'' | 235.8 | 7'4'' | 8'10.5'' | 5.9 | 9.5 | 11.5
Ray McCallum
6'0.25'' | 6'1.75'' | 191.4 | 6'3.25'' | 8'0.5'' | 7.3 | 8 | 8.75
C.J. McCollum
6'2.25'' | 6'3.25'' | 197 | 6'6.25'' | 8'0.5'' | 8.6 | 8 | 9.5
Ben McLemore
6'3.5'' | 6'4.75'' | 189.2 | 6'7.75'' | 8'4.5'' | 5 | 8.75 | 9.5
Tony Mitchell
6'7.5'' | 6'8.75'' | 236.4 | 7'2.5'' | 8'10.5'' | 5.6 | 9 | 10
Shabazz Muhammad
6'4.75'' | 6'6.25'' | 221.8 | 6'11'' | 8'8.5'' | 9 | 9 | 10
Erik Murphy
6'8.75'' | 6'9.5'' | 239.8 | 6'10.5'' | 9'0'' | 8 | 8.75 | 9.75
Mike Muscala
6'10.25'' | 6'11.5'' | 230.2 | 7'1'' | 9'0'' | 6.8 | 8.5 | 9
Nerlens Noel
6'10'' | 6'11.75'' | 206.4 | 7'3.75'' | 9'2'' | 4.2 | 9.5 | 10
Victor Oladipo
6'3.25'' | 6'4.25'' | 213.2 | 6'9.25'' | 8'4.5'' | 6.6 | 8.75 | 9.25
Kelly Olynyk
6'10.75'' | 7'0'' | 234 | 6'9.75'' | 9'0'' | 6.7 | 8.5 | 10
Brandon Paul
6'2.75'' | 6'4'' | 201 | 6'10.25'' | 8'2'' | 5.3 | 8.5 | 9.5
Norvel Pelle
6'9.5'' | 6'10.5'' | 207.2 | 7'2.5'' | 9'1'' | 5.2 | 8.75 | 9.5
Mason Plumlee
6'11.25'' | 7'0.5'' | 238.2 | 6'11'' | 9'0'' | 6.15 | 9.75 | 9.5
Otto Porter Jr.
6'7.5'' | 6'8.5'' | 197.6 | 7'1.5'' | 8'9.5'' | 6.7 | 8.75 | 9.25
Phil Pressey
5'9.5'' | 5'11.5'' | 177 | 6'2.25'' | 7'8'' | 4.7 | 7.75 | 9.75
Glen Rice Jr.
6'4.5'' | 6'5.75'' | 210.8 | 6'9.25'' | 8'5.5'' | 8.5 | 8.5 | 9
Andre Roberson
6'6.25'' | 6'7'' | 205.8 | 6'11'' | 8'8.5'' | 7.1 | 8.75 | 9.5
Dennis Schroeder
6'1'' | 6'2'' | 164.8 | 6'7.75'' | 8'2'' | 4.1 | 8.75 | 10.5
Peyton Siva |
5'11.5'' | 6'1'' | 180.6 | 6'3'' | 7'9'' | 6.1 | 8 | 9.75
Tony Snell |
6'6'' | 6'7.25'' | 198.2 | 6'11.5'' | 8'9.5'' | 4.9 | 9 | 9.5
James Southerland
6'7'' | 6'8'' | 220.6 | 7'1'' | 8'10'' | 8.05 | 8 | 9.5
Adonis Thomas
6'4.75'' | 6'5.75'' | 231.8 | 7'1'' | 8'3'' | 7.5 | 9.25 | 9.5
Deshaun Thomas
6'5'' | 6'7'' | 219.8 | 6'10'' | 8'8'' | 9.1 | 8 | 8.75
Jeff Withey
6'10.75'' | 7'0.5'' | 221.8 | 7'2'' | 9'2.5'' | 8.7 | 9 | 9.75
Nate Wolters
6'3.5'' | 6'4.75'' | 196.4 | 6'3.75'' | 8'2'' | 5.5 | 8.25 | 8.75
B.J. Young
6'2.25'' | 6'3.5'' | 178.8 | 6'8.25'' | 8'3'' | 4.7 | 8.5 | 9.5
Cody Zeller
6'10.75'' | 7'0.25'' | 230 | 6'10.75'' | 8'10'' | 4.75 | 8.5 | 10.5
Height w/o Shoes | Height with Shoes | Weight | Wingspan | Reach | Body Fat | Hand Length | Hand Width
Steven Adams
6'10.75'' | 7'0'' | 254.5 | 7'4.5'' | 9'1.5'' | 6.7 | 9.5 | 11
Vander Blue
6'3.5'' | 6'5.25'' | 197.4 | 6'6'' | 8'4.5'' | 4.6 | 8.5 | 9.5
Lorenzo Brown
6'4'' | 6'5.25'' | 189.2 | 6'7'' | 8'4'' | 4 | 8.25 | 8.5
Reggie Bullock
6'5.75'' | 6'7'' | 199.8 | 6'8.75'' | 8'6'' | 7 | 8.5 | 9
Trey Burke
5'11.75'' | 6'1.25'' | 187 | 6'5.5'' | 8'1.5'' | 6.9 | 8.25 | 8.75
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
6'4.5'' | 6'5.5'' | 203.6 | 6'8'' | 8'4.5'' | 6.5 | 8.5 | 9
Isaiah Canaan
5'11'' | 6'0'' | 188.4 | 6'4.5'' | 7'10.5'' | 5.9 | 8.25 | 9.5
Jackie Carmichael
6'7.5'' | 6'9'' | 241.2 | 7'1.5'' | 8'11'' | 5.8 | 9 | 10.25
Michael Carter-Williams
6'4.75'' | 6'5.75'' | 184.4 | 6'7.25'' | 8'5'' | 4.4 | 7.5 | 8.5
Will Clyburn
6'5.75'' | 6'7'' | 210.4 | 7'0.25'' | 8'9'' | 6.9 | 9.25 | 10.25
Robert Covington
6'6.25'' | 6'7.5'' | 208.6 | 7'1.75'' | 8'10'' | 4.7 | 9 | 8.5
Allen Crabbe
6'5.25'' | 6'6.25'' | 197.4 | 6'11.25'' | 8'7.5'' | 4.7 | 8.25 | 8.5
Seth Curry
6'1'' | 6'3'' | 179.2 | 6'4'' | 8'1.5'' | 9.6 | 8 | 8.25
Brandon Davies
6'8.5'' | 6'10.25'' | 241.8 | 7'1.5'' | 9'0.5'' | 8.6 | 9 | 11
DeWayne Dedmon
6'10'' | 6'11.5'' | 238.8 | 7'4'' | 9'1'' | 8.4 | 9 | 11
Gorgui Dieng
6'9.75'' | 6'10.75'' | 229.6 | 7'3.5'' | 9'3.5'' | 5.4 | 9 | 10
James Ennis
6'5.75'' | 6'7'' | 200.8 | 6'11.5'' | 8'8.5'' | 4.5 | 8.5 | 8.75
Carrick Felix
6'4.75'' | 6'6.25'' | 202.6 | 6'9.25'' | 8'7.5'' | 3.3 | 8.5 | 9.5
Jamaal Franklin
6'4'' | 6'5.25'' | 190.8 | 6'11.25'' | 8'7.5'' | 8.3 | 8.5 | 8.25
Rudy Gobert
7'0.5'' | 7'2'' | 237.6 | 7'8.5'' | 9'7'' | 4.4 | 9.75 | 10
Archie Goodwin
6'3.75'' | 6'5.25'' | 189 | 6'9.5'' | 8'6'' | 4.6 | 8.5 | 9
Erick Green
6'1.5'' | 6'3'' | 178.2 | 6'5.75'' | 8'2'' | 4.4 | 8.5 | 9
Tim Hardaway Jr.
6'4.5'' | 6'6.25'' | 199.4 | 6'7'' | 8'5'' | 6.1 | 8 | 9.25
Solomon Hill
6'5.5'' | 6'7'' | 226 | 6'9'' | 8'7'' | 7.6 | 9 | 10.5
Richard Howell
6'6.25'' | 6'7.5'' | 249.6 | 6'10.25'' | 8'9.5'' | 8.8 | 8.75 | 9.5
Colton Iverson
6'10.5'' | 7'0'' | 262.8 | 7'2'' | 9'2'' | 9.6 | 9.25 | 9.5
Pierre Jackson
5'9.5'' | 5'10.5'' | 176 | 5'10'' | 7'6'' | 4.5 | 7.5 | 8.25
Grant Jerrett
6'8.75'' | 6'10.25'' | 232 | 7'2'' | 9'1'' | 10.1 | 8.5 | 9.25
Myck Kabongo
6'1.25'' | 6'2.75'' | 180.4 | 6'6.25'' | 8'2'' | 6 | 8.25 | 9
Kenny Kadji
6'8.75'' | 6'10'' | 241.6 | 7'3'' | 8'10.5'' | 7.5 | 9 | 10.25
Ryan Kelly
6'9.75'' | 6'11.75'' | 228 | 6'11.5'' | 9'2'' | 14.8 | 9 | 10
Shane Larkin
5'10.25'' | 5'11.5'' | 170.8 | 5'10.75'' | 7'5.5'' | 3.8 | 7.5 | 8.75
Ricardo Ledo
6'4.75'' | 6'6'' | 197.2 | 6'7.25'' | 8'6.5'' | 10.3 | 8.5 | 9.25
Alex Len
N/A | N/A | N/A | 7'3.5'' | N/A | 6.4 | 9 | 10.75
C.J. Leslie
6'7.5'' | 6'8.75'' | 209.2 | 7'2.25'' | 8'8.5'' | 8 | 8.75 | 9
Trevor Mbakwe
6'6.75'' | 6'8'' | 235.8 | 7'4'' | 8'10.5'' | 5.9 | 9.5 | 11.5
Ray McCallum
6'0.25'' | 6'1.75'' | 191.4 | 6'3.25'' | 8'0.5'' | 7.3 | 8 | 8.75
C.J. McCollum
6'2.25'' | 6'3.25'' | 197 | 6'6.25'' | 8'0.5'' | 8.6 | 8 | 9.5
Ben McLemore
6'3.5'' | 6'4.75'' | 189.2 | 6'7.75'' | 8'4.5'' | 5 | 8.75 | 9.5
Tony Mitchell
6'7.5'' | 6'8.75'' | 236.4 | 7'2.5'' | 8'10.5'' | 5.6 | 9 | 10
Shabazz Muhammad
6'4.75'' | 6'6.25'' | 221.8 | 6'11'' | 8'8.5'' | 9 | 9 | 10
Erik Murphy
6'8.75'' | 6'9.5'' | 239.8 | 6'10.5'' | 9'0'' | 8 | 8.75 | 9.75
Mike Muscala
6'10.25'' | 6'11.5'' | 230.2 | 7'1'' | 9'0'' | 6.8 | 8.5 | 9
Nerlens Noel
6'10'' | 6'11.75'' | 206.4 | 7'3.75'' | 9'2'' | 4.2 | 9.5 | 10
Victor Oladipo
6'3.25'' | 6'4.25'' | 213.2 | 6'9.25'' | 8'4.5'' | 6.6 | 8.75 | 9.25
Kelly Olynyk
6'10.75'' | 7'0'' | 234 | 6'9.75'' | 9'0'' | 6.7 | 8.5 | 10
Brandon Paul
6'2.75'' | 6'4'' | 201 | 6'10.25'' | 8'2'' | 5.3 | 8.5 | 9.5
Norvel Pelle
6'9.5'' | 6'10.5'' | 207.2 | 7'2.5'' | 9'1'' | 5.2 | 8.75 | 9.5
Mason Plumlee
6'11.25'' | 7'0.5'' | 238.2 | 6'11'' | 9'0'' | 6.15 | 9.75 | 9.5
Otto Porter Jr.
6'7.5'' | 6'8.5'' | 197.6 | 7'1.5'' | 8'9.5'' | 6.7 | 8.75 | 9.25
Phil Pressey
5'9.5'' | 5'11.5'' | 177 | 6'2.25'' | 7'8'' | 4.7 | 7.75 | 9.75
Glen Rice Jr.
6'4.5'' | 6'5.75'' | 210.8 | 6'9.25'' | 8'5.5'' | 8.5 | 8.5 | 9
Andre Roberson
6'6.25'' | 6'7'' | 205.8 | 6'11'' | 8'8.5'' | 7.1 | 8.75 | 9.5
Dennis Schroeder
6'1'' | 6'2'' | 164.8 | 6'7.75'' | 8'2'' | 4.1 | 8.75 | 10.5
Peyton Siva |
5'11.5'' | 6'1'' | 180.6 | 6'3'' | 7'9'' | 6.1 | 8 | 9.75
Tony Snell |
6'6'' | 6'7.25'' | 198.2 | 6'11.5'' | 8'9.5'' | 4.9 | 9 | 9.5
James Southerland
6'7'' | 6'8'' | 220.6 | 7'1'' | 8'10'' | 8.05 | 8 | 9.5
Adonis Thomas
6'4.75'' | 6'5.75'' | 231.8 | 7'1'' | 8'3'' | 7.5 | 9.25 | 9.5
Deshaun Thomas
6'5'' | 6'7'' | 219.8 | 6'10'' | 8'8'' | 9.1 | 8 | 8.75
Jeff Withey
6'10.75'' | 7'0.5'' | 221.8 | 7'2'' | 9'2.5'' | 8.7 | 9 | 9.75
Nate Wolters
6'3.5'' | 6'4.75'' | 196.4 | 6'3.75'' | 8'2'' | 5.5 | 8.25 | 8.75
B.J. Young
6'2.25'' | 6'3.5'' | 178.8 | 6'8.25'' | 8'3'' | 4.7 | 8.5 | 9.5
Cody Zeller
6'10.75'' | 7'0.25'' | 230 | 6'10.75'' | 8'10'' | 4.75 | 8.5 | 10.5
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orangello
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Yep
underKANTER
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Imo, McLemore, Noel and Gobert are the three players with the most potential in this draft.
Gobert is almost 240 lbs, a bit bigger as I expected and he has the most freakish length I have ever seen. Add good quickness and decent athleticizm and you can have a very solid player.
I think Gobert and Schroeder will go as top 10 or 12 picks in this draft. Looks like the Jazz have to trade up.
Gobert is almost 240 lbs, a bit bigger as I expected and he has the most freakish length I have ever seen. Add good quickness and decent athleticizm and you can have a very solid player.
I think Gobert and Schroeder will go as top 10 or 12 picks in this draft. Looks like the Jazz have to trade up.
Gorgui Dieng measurements didn't hurt himself. Love the way he can guard in the post, on the perimeter, and in the pick and roll. He and Favors would make a nice combo defensively. I could see the Jazz either going offensive with Olynyk at 14 or defensive with Dieng. I think Gobert will have issues guarding the pick and roll... which will limit a lot of his defensive effectiveness. Would be interesting to see them play some 3 on 3 in the pre-draft workouts.
9% isn't that bad. I'm positive it's an improvement from his last game at college. This combine is the earliest ever if I'm not mistaken, not a lot of time for prospects to work on their athletic testing game.
He has decent size for a SG. I don't think the measurements move the needle either way.
Chargers Jazz Angels
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Is Corbin at the Combine?