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Irrational Hatred for Corbin.

Tony

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A lot of you need to get over the irrational hatred you have for Corbin. The last few seasons I'm sure he felt as if his job was on the line so he played to win. You really can't blame the guy. You have to remember also, he's a new coach. Like new players, he's not gonna make the right decisions but he'll continue to grow just like players do. Sloan wasn't always the great coach everyone knows him to be, he learned as he went and he became better. Give him time you impatient ****s.
 
A lot of you need to get over the irrational hatred you have for Corbin. The last few seasons I'm sure he felt as if his job was on the line so he played to win. You really can't blame the guy. You have to remember also, he's a new coach. Like new players, he's not gonna make the right decisions but he'll continue to grow just like players do. Sloan wasn't always the great coach everyone knows him to be, he learned as he went and he became better. Give him time you impatient ****s.

It's not irrational. It was earned, through repeatedly making stupid mistakes, mismanaging minutes and terrible rotational decision. I don't think you're using the word irrational correctly. Maybe you meant "unfair"?
 
It's not irrational. It was earned, through repeatedly making stupid mistakes, mismanaging minutes and terrible rotational decision. I don't think you're using the word irrational correctly. Maybe you meant "unfair"?

Nope, irrational is the word. He's a fairly new head coach ffs. Like I said, new players don't always make the right decisions either, they make stupid mistakes. He'll continue to grow and get better.

I'm really glad the Miller Family is patient and has faith in him otherwise this fanbase would have gone through more coaches than any other team last season by now.
 
I had given up on Corbin, but next year is a new year with what I hope is a completely different team.

I'll give him a fresh start next year.
 
Nope, irrational is the word. He's a fairly new head coach ffs. Like I said, new players don't always make the right decisions either, they make stupid mistakes. He'll continue to grow and get better.

I'm really glad the Miller Family is patient and has faith in him otherwise this fanbase would have gone through more coaches than any other team last season by now.

I have never understood this rationale at all. You draft rookies, you hire coaches. You expect rookies to take time to learn the game. Head coaches should already know the game. Corbin has been in the game for over 20 years; why does he need three plus years to learn how to make a defensive substitution in the closing seconds of a game????
 
If he played to win, why did he play the best players on the team the fewest minutes?


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It's not irrational. It was earned, through repeatedly making stupid mistakes, mismanaging minutes and terrible rotational decision. I don't think you're using the word irrational correctly. Maybe you meant "unfair"?

This is correct. I understand that Corbin is a young coach. Happy to give him time. But when he never corrected his mistakes through his 2 1/2 years of coaching......... That is why we were all so upset. Its not irrational to be upset with a coach who.........

Lets Mo Williams run the offense.
Has Burks sitting on the bench the first few months and not developing
Doesn't ever come up with an offense just throws it into Al-Suck
Never runs the pick and roll for Favors where he excels.
Never really ran plays for Millsap only Jefferson
BARELY let Hayward run the offense even though he excels as a distributor
NEVER played match ups. He just stuck to his rotation
Had Foye guard Elite players MULTIPLE times at the end of games instead of Hayward, Marvin or Carroll.
I have never seen a coach continue the same crap and not correct himself.
Its so rare to not see a coach see how there is mismatches on the court and not make a substitution. I would forgive him if it happened just a few times and learned later. BUT HE NEVER LEARNED. He was horrible at this.
His decision making was always too late to make a difference to actually make a comeback.
Kanter has 2 amazing games in a row(one game was a 20 20). Next month his minutes actually went down after that. He had 2 games the following month where he played 7 minutes one game and 6 another. While Jefferson and Millsap both played over 35 minutes a game. I wasn't expecting Kanters minutes to go up to 30 or anything like that. But to drop his minutes after that. At least give him MORE! Its a joke.

Raja Bell who never butted heads with previous coaches gets in a fight with Corbin. Now rumors of Millsap and Watson. Another 2 players who haven't had any fights with their previous coaches.

This list goes on and on and on!!!!!! If you think its unfair I can see that a little because he is new. But Sneakers was right. The key word he used was "repeatedly" making stupid mistakes. That is the difference. He hasn't shown he is improving.
Its not irrational at all. Well deserved criticism. But he is our coach and he has next year to try again to improve. If he improves I will be very happy. But he hasn't shown to so far. The only thing I did liked better about Corbin vs Sloan was the defensive rotations. I though his defensive scheme was a little better personally. Obviously Jefferson made things worse. But I thought Corbin's defense when Jefferson was not playing was actually pretty good. I thought Sloans left too many 3's open. Sloan's offense guarded the mid range more. Corbin's protects the 3 more which is needed in the game today.
 
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I have never understood this rationale at all. You draft rookies, you hire coaches. You expect rookies to take time to learn the game. Head coaches should already know the game. Corbin has been in the game for over 20 years; why does he need three plus years to learn how to make a defensive substitution in the closing seconds of a game????

This is his first real coaching experience. First he was a player developer then a player mentor and then an assistant here which was really just being the players buddy. If he was the lead assistant coach when he was hired, then ya I'd be concerned for this team. But he wasn't Phil was and he retired right with Jerry so Jerry chose Ty. I don't think Corbin was at all prepared for what he was in for but he's there now and he's getting help from a lot of people in the organization including Jerry Sloan. He's going to get better.
 
This is his first real coaching experience. First he was a player developer then a player mentor and then an assistant here which was really just being the players buddy. If he was the lead assistant coach when he was hired, then ya I'd be concerned for this team. But he wasn't Phil was and he retired right with Jerry so Jerry chose Ty. I don't think Corbin was at all prepared for what he was in for but he's there now and he's getting help from a lot of people in the organization including Jerry Sloan. He's going to get better.

i don't have a problem that corbin is not the best coach in the league or that he will ever be, i know he will not

my problem is that until he learns the basics of coaching, we may lose a generation of great players
 
True. Hopefully Jerry will be able to really help him a lot this season. I have faith in Jerry.
 
i don't have a problem that corbin is not the best coach in the league or that he will ever be, i know he will not

my problem is that until he learns the basics of coaching, we may lose a generation of great players

^^^This. Years are ticking away from our players' careers, and there they sit. But we fans are suppose to wait patiently while our head coach struggles to learn the fundamentals of his job.
 
I have never understood this rationale at all. You draft rookies, you hire coaches. You expect rookies to take time to learn the game. Head coaches should already know the game. Corbin has been in the game for over 20 years; why does he need three plus years to learn how to make a defensive substitution in the closing seconds of a game????
Great point. I realize Corbin is a young coach. But he keeps making the same mistakes he did when he first took over for Jerry. Ok, excuse him for those games; it was chaos. And I guess give him a free pass for a strike-shortened year. So last season, do we not hold him accountable because it was such a difficult task managing veterans and young players? BULL EXPLETIVE! Every team works young players into the rotation. I've seen very little progress from Ty in terms of installing an offense or defense, making in-game adjustments, adjusting rotation patterns to match the opponent or "ride a hot hand." And I could go on from there. Maybe Corbin is a good "player coach." We don't need that from him. We need him to be a HEAD COACH.
 
1. 80% of Coaching isn't rocket science. And we don't blame him for the 20%, that are Popovich tier territory.

2. It's not like he jumped right into this. He was an NBA player and an assistant for some time.

3. He has a huge staff, he's not alone. He can be reminded if he doesn't make a planned substitution or something.

4. A lot of decisions are made before games. He can't mess up the rotation ingame over and over again.

5. His rotations are abysmal. It's one thing to play to win but another one to play old guys over better and younger ones.

6. If he turns around this season it's still ok. But he hindered Kanter's development last season by not playing him and you can't make up for that. Last season many said: It's his first real season, he can shape the roster and has an Offseason to prepare for it. But imo he got worse in comparison to his first half of a season when Sloan left.
 
I'm 100% sure we all tried to like Corbin.

He earned his hatred, and now he has to earn his trust.
 
I do not like Corbin but am willing to see what he can do this year. if he doesn't develope the young talent I say "don't let the door hit you on the way out" plain and simple. if the jazz lose every game and Corbin is sticking with the young guns I am ok.

then again if they lose all the games with these guys he should be fired.
 
it is neither irrational nor hatred.
It is just a well deserved distrust and/or frustration,that the Jazzfans usually feel.
 
A lot of you need to get over the irrational hatred you have for Corbin. The last few seasons I'm sure he felt as if his job was on the line so he played to win. You really can't blame the guy. You have to remember also, he's a new coach. Like new players, he's not gonna make the right decisions but he'll continue to grow just like players do. Sloan wasn't always the great coach everyone knows him to be, he learned as he went and he became better. Give him time you impatient ****s.

Played to win?..... I would have never thought that playing an old washed up piece of crap like roger braille and josh howard is the recipe for wins, with sime earl watson sprinkled in.
Wonder who will be offering braille and howard max money this summer
Hopefully we can outbid all the other teams for thier services so we can get back to our winning ways
 
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