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The Thriller

The Thriller

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Will Corbin be fired?

I mean, at some point ya gotta make a change, right?

How many more blowouts must we suffer before a change is made?
 
They will keep Corbin for better or worse this year, and they will be OK with the latter. He will probably get a chance next year as well, but be on a shorter leash.
 
I would so so pissed if Corbin is fired this year. Especially this early.

That means that the Jazz could have had Bledsoe and Horny for Millsap, Al and Corbin but chose to do nothing. Unreal.

That's why I don't want Corbin fired. I want Parker or Wiggins. Corbin May be the worst coach ever. The Jazz have ****ed everything up so far. Don't **** the tank by bringing in a good coach. Lose, lose and lose.
 
Also, look at rumored deals the Jazz passed on.

Harden for Kanter.
Bledsoe for Millsap.
Corbin for Horny. We could have had this lineup:

Bledsoe
Harden
Hayward
Favors

Yikes. We HAD better walk away with a 5+ time All-Star. Like Deron as the floor of how good this player will be.
 
The Thriller said:
Will Corbin be fired?

I mean, at some point ya gotta make a change, right?

How many more blowouts must we suffer before a change is made?
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How can the Jazz fire Corbin after gutting the roster with vets? Sorry but it would be a dirty move to do.
 
Yeah. Gut the roster, and then tell Corbin to make chicken salad out of chicken ****. That's fair.
 
Lemme see...

Kyle Lowry > Tinsley
Demar Derozan < Hayward, not by much tho
Rudy Gay > Jefferson
Hansbrough ? Favors (If Favors is on, Favors > Hansbrough. If Favors takes the game off, then Hansbrough > Favors)
Valunciunas = Kanter

Thier bench > Our bench.
We lose.
 
And we would have had money for a max player last summer. I don't think Howard would have come here, but with Harden, Hayward and Bledsoe...

Then our starting five would be:

Bledsoe
Harden
Hayward
Favors
Howard
 
green said:
Also, look at rumored deals the Jazz passed on.

Harden for Kanter.
Bledsoe for Millsap.
Corbin for Horny. We could have had this lineup:

Bledsoe
Harden
Hayward
Favors

Yikes. We HAD better walk away with a 5+ time All-Star. Like Deron as the floor of how good this player will be.
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The Jazz did not choose Corbin over Hornacek. Corbin was already the coach before Jeff decided he wanted to coach full time. Jeff wasn't considered because he wanted to spend time with his family. It was just poor timing. Those other deals were internet rumors. If Millsap deal was on the table then I would be most upset about that non move especially when it became apparent that Millsap wasn't part of the future.
 
Weezur said:
Lemme see...

Kyle Lowry > Tinsley
Demar Derozan < Hayward, not by much tho
Rudy Gay > Jefferson
Hansbrough ? Favors (If Favors is on, Favors > Hansbrough. If Favors takes the game off, then Hansbrough > Favors)
Valunciunas = Kanter

Thier bench > Our bench.
We lose.
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The Raps starting 4 is Amir Johnson, arguably their best all-around player. Right now he's better than Favors. Jazz have to hope Dwayne Casey goes irrationally small (likely), allowing Kanter to go to work, and that Rudy Gay and DeMar DeRozan miss the loads of pull up 20-footers their bound to take (also likely).

Raps 88
Jazz 76
 
I'd be okay with parting ways 2/3 of the way through the season... then establish Lowe or someone as the interim coach for 10 games or so before hiring Hollins to close out the season over a bumpy transition period.
 
The Thriller said:
Will Corbin be fired?

I mean, at some point ya gotta make a change, right?

How many more blowouts must we suffer before a change is made?
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corbin is in the game for a reason and this season he's not going anywhere or until allstar break for sure

besides, to attract a good coach you have to offer something, and right now the jazz can offer a team who plays 4 on 5
 
bjunior said:
corbin is in the game for a reason and this season he's not going anywhere or until allstar break for sure

besides, to attract a good coach you have to offer something, and right now the jazz can offer a team who plays 4 on 5
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Agree with the timing. Let Ty coach them into irretrievable tank city, something like 9-45, then bring in a real coach to start teaching them real NBA skills. Do it before next season before Ty ruins this set of youngsters.

I think a good coach can see the potential here and would be happy to come aboard.
 
cowhide said:
The Jazz did not choose Corbin over Hornacek. Corbin was already the coach before Jeff decided he wanted to coach full time. Jeff wasn't considered because he wanted to spend time with his family. It was just poor timing. Those other deals were internet rumors. If Millsap deal was on the table then I would be most upset about that non move especially when it became apparent that Millsap wasn't part of the future.
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I disagree. The Jazz could have fired Corbin after the Allstar break and made Horny intern coach. Then after the Jazz make the playoffs, make Horny the head coach.
 
GVC said:
The Raps starting 4 is Amir Johnson, arguably their best all-around player. Right now he's better than Favors. Jazz have to hope Dwayne Casey goes irrationally small (likely), allowing Kanter to go to work, and that Rudy Gay and DeMar DeRozan miss the loads of pull up 20-footers their bound to take (also likely).

Raps 88
Jazz 76
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O geez, forgot about Amir. Yeah this is going to be a blowout then. Our bigs can't match theirs unless Favors has a good day and Kanter somehow gets his motor back.
 
bjunior said:
right now the jazz can offer a team who plays 4 on 5
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A lot of posters seem to be falling back on two explanations of the poor results so far this season: The Jazz are playing 4 on 5 (Tinsley and JLIII at the 1) and the bench sucks. Unfortunately,

1. The Jazz were 20-12 in the games Tinsley started last season.

2. Jazz +/- per 48 minutes

Team: -11.2

RJ: -21.9
Gordo: -19.3
Favs: -16.8
Tinsley: -15.7
Kanter: -13.1

Tinsley/Gordo/RJ/Favs/Kanter lineup: -29.0


The bench has been bad, the starters have been terrible. The poor play of the starters can not all be blamed on Jamaal Tinsley/JLIII. Our young players aren't nearly as good as some thought they were. It's unlikely any of them become better players than Al or Millsap.
 
I'd be surprised if Corbin was fired before season's end, but it might provide a nice spark. I don't get the overwhelming sense from anyone that the team loves Ty.
 
Jeditiger said:
Yeah. Gut the roster, and then tell Corbin to make chicken salad out of chicken ****. That's fair.
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Yeah I know right. A starting line up line up full of lotto picks. No wonder we look completely lost.
Give this guy a low post scorer, a flexible offensive 4, a hustle guy with dreads, and a vet PG then he will get us to the playoffs.
 
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