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For all the fire Ty people:

The Jazz have had more winning seasons in the last 30 years than any other team in the NBA.

When you're looking at a 1-11 start, historical references go out the window.

To a point but then you have to look at what the FO is trying to do and like it or not Corbin fits into that. I just don't see him being fired. He won't be renewed but he wont be fired either.
 
Agreed. I suspect they give him 20 games or so with Burke at least. He has some defense to hide behind with having had the worst PGs in league history.

I think this is fair - you give him time to work Burke in. Ultimately it will make little difference in terms of wins and losses. Burke is going to be wildly inconsistent this year - much like Hayward was his rookie year.

Otherwise, if they keep Corbin, to hell with it. Send Burke to D-League. And while you're at it, send Favors, Kanter and Hayward there too - I don't want their fingerprints on this train wreck!
 
I don't mind losing--I expected it this year. What I don't want is to be embarrassed in the process nor go down as one of the worst teams in history. I want entertaining games where we are in games and compete, even if we lose. I think that's what the Jazz FO want too. As of now, we are not competitive, we are not entertaining, and we are on track to be one of the worst teams in history. Somebody HAS to be held accountable for it.

There is just no way in hell that the Jazz cannot fire Corbin if we end up 1-20, or something like that. He will be fired at some point this season. It's inevitable. And my guess is that it will happen sooner rather than later.

The Jazz have been very competitive and enjoyable to watch for good stretches of time, miserable at others (as expected). I don't see what you're actual demand is.
 
I think we should fire him because he just isn't a good coach and we have thread upon thread citing specific reasons that show him to be a poor head coach. So, why do you keep defending him with stupid comments like this?

That is funny man. Almost every thread is the same whining stuff. Go back and read pages and pages of criticism that was said about Sloan. People were complaining about the same thing. Just watch games where Jazz players are wide open and see how many shots they miss. I don't know what the team is shooting but most games they are around 40 percent.
 
I have no idea if Ty will make it through the season but I think the Jazz have generally tried to honor contracts. However, I won't be surprised if he is fired because it is the NBA. Look at all the coaches who got fired with winning records last year.

As a Jazz fan I would like to at least give Ty some time to get back most of the roster and play a few games together before they abandon ship.
 
The Jazz have been very competitive and enjoyable to watch for good stretches of time, miserable at others (as expected). I don't see what you're actual demand is.
What is your definition of "good stretches of time"? 2 Minutes? 5 Minutes? A quarter?
 
That is funny man. Almost every thread is the same whining stuff. Go back and read pages and pages of criticism that was said about Sloan. People were complaining about the same thing. Just watch games where Jazz players are wide open and see how many shots they miss. I don't know what the team is shooting but most games they are around 40 percent.

People that we complaining about sloan had no idea what they were talking about imo
 
People that we complaining about sloan had no idea what they were talking about imo

People generally complained about Sloan's rotations than anything else. Honestly, we just need some fresh faces for the franchise. Sloan is not the answer and shouldn't come back. The Jazz organization needs to stop having so much loyalty and hire someone who is best for the team/players. Before someone says, "well who would that be?" I'm not sure and that's why I'm not a GM of a NBA team.
 
What is your definition of "good stretches of time"? 2 Minutes? 5 Minutes? A quarter?


LOL - this is what I have so far.

OKC - solid effort
PHX - solid effort
Houston - about 2 quarters of solid effort - 2nd half meltdown
Brookyn - total embarrassment
Boston - total embarrassment except for a mini-comeback in the 2nd half
Chicago - total embarrassment
Toronto - total embarrassment - probably their worst game of the season but 4th game in 5 days on the road so give them a pass
Denver - extreme total embarrassment - complete humiliation at home against a marginal team
San Antonio - solid effort with an asterik - The Spurs sleep-walked through huge stretches of this game.
New Orleans - 2 quarter of lousy basketball (they were down by 13 at the half) followed by a solid effort in the second half against an exhausted team. Don't be surprised if NO blows them out by 20 tonight.
@GSW - total embarrassment
GSW - extreme total embarrassment - GSW hot dogged it through about half this game.
 
LOL - this is what I have so far.

OKC - solid effort
PHX - solid effort
Houston - about 2 quarters of solid effort - 2nd half meltdown
Brookyn - total embarrassment
Boston - total embarrassment except for a mini-comeback in the 2nd half
Chicago - total embarrassment
Toronto - total embarrassment - probably their worst game of the season but 4th game in 5 days on the road so give them a pass
Denver - extreme total embarrassment - complete humiliation at home against a marginal team
San Antonio - solid effort with an asterik - The Spurs sleep-walked through huge stretches of this game.
New Orleans - 2 quarter of lousy basketball (they were down by 13 at the half) followed by a solid effort in the second half against an exhausted team. Don't be surprised if NO blows them out by 20 tonight.
@GSW - total embarrassment
GSW - extreme total embarrassment - GSW hot dogged it through about half this game.
Spot on.
 
For all the don't fire Ty folks, is there a point where it becomes necessary? What would it take? 5-36 at the midpoint? Worse? What about 2-39? That is looking possible.
 
For all the don't fire Ty folks, is there a point where it becomes necessary? What would it take? 5-36 at the midpoint? Worse? What about 2-39? That is looking possible.

Deferent answers for different people. Some would be thrileld with a 2-39 record not me.

For me it is not the record but how Ty plays the team. If it is a ton of time for Lucas, Williams, Jefferson, Biedrins and Harris while Burke, Hayward, Kanter...all sit then he has to go.
 
LOL - this is what I have so far.

OKC - solid effort
PHX - solid effort
Houston - about 2 quarters of solid effort - 2nd half meltdown

Brookyn - total embarrassment
Boston - total embarrassment except for a mini-comeback in the 2nd half
Chicago - total embarrassment
Toronto - total embarrassment - probably their worst game of the season but 4th game in 5 days on the road so give them a pass
Denver - extreme total embarrassment - complete humiliation at home against a marginal team
San Antonio - solid effort with an asterik - The Spurs sleep-walked through huge stretches of this game.
New Orleans - 2 quarter of lousy basketball (they were down by 13 at the half) followed by a solid effort in the second half against an exhausted team. Don't be surprised if NO blows them out by 20 tonight.
@GSW - total embarrassment
GSW - extreme total embarrassment - GSW hot dogged it through about half this game.

Wow, I've only watched these games, thank you spider senses.

If you like it or not, Al Jefferson was Corbin's lifeline on offense and Al deserves credit for it. He can do his thing no matter how bad the offense is set up. It wasn't the team's fault nor Al's that he became a black hole over stretches.

ALL of you who still defend Corbin need to wake up and quit making excuses. Corbin hasn't improved much if any since he started. He modernized the defense but that's about it. The argument about loyalty and image is seriously, utterly ridiculous beyond belief. He got this job (undservedly) solely because of this organization's belief and loyalty in their own staff. Then he got extended based on the same principle despite his subpar coaching. Come on, just cut the losses...

I don't have much knowledge about alternatives, but there are enough ex-NBA coaches available and many good European coaches that would gladly take the job.
 
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Wow, I've only watched these games, thank you spider senses.

If you like it or not, Al Jefferson was Corbin's anchor on offense and Al deserves credit for it. He can do his thing no matter how bad the offense is set up. It wasn't the team's fault nor Al's that he became a black hole over stretches.

ALL of you who still defend Corbin need to wake up and quit making excuses. Corbin hasn't improved much if any since he started. He modernized the defense but that's about it. The argument about loyalty and image is seriously, utterly ridiculous beyond belief. He got this job (undservedly) solely because of this organization's belief and loyalty in their own staff. Then he got extended based on the same principle despite his subpar coaching. Come on, just cut the losses...

I don't have much knowledge about alternatives, but there are enough ex-NBA coaches available and many good European coaches that would gladly take the job.

Really the only person on here who 'defends' Corbin is Franklin. Mostly, people are either calling for him to be fired, or they are saying that this team sucks horribly on purpose, and Corbin is just along for the ride. We are losing by design of the front office, and we are doing a helluva job at it. If we hire another coach mid tank, it does not really improve anything, other than not having to hire one in the offseason. I would rather just wait the year out, and hire a new coach in the offseason.
 
Really the only person on here who 'defends' Corbin is Franklin. Mostly, people are either calling for him to be fired, or they are saying that this team sucks horribly on purpose, and Corbin is just along for the ride. We are losing by design of the front office, and we are doing a helluva job at it. If we hire another coach mid tank, it does not really improve anything, other than not having to hire one in the offseason. I would rather just wait the year out, and hire a new coach in the offseason.

I've rarely defended Corbin. All I can add is objective observation and fair reporting of facts. Also, I can't help that my opinion track record is nearly flawless (now to include my early call for Parker>Wiggins that every national reporter is now on board with).
 
I've rarely defended Corbin. All I can add is objective observation and fair reporting of facts. Also, I can't help that my opinion track record is nearly flawless (now to include my early call for Parker>Wiggins that every national reporter is now on board with).

I mostly agree with you when you post.
 
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