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Then I guess you would call Dwight a good shooter?


May be you'd play him at SG?

You're missing the point again. Let me tell you like this: Find me a legit coach who doesn't use the words wing, scoring guard or guard. And they will use shooting guard when they're speaking with the media so guys like you don't get confused...
 
You're missing the point again. Let me tell you like this: Find me a legit coach who doesn't use the words wing, scoring guard or guard. And they will use shooting guard when they're speaking with the media so guys like you don't get confused...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DksSPZTZES0
 
More like you better use your brain while watching basketball and study some real basketball stuff before talking with dem big boys.
But you could also start wondering how every guy who was labeled a shooting guard and at the same time was bad at long range shooting could fit your description so you can feel right about your ridiculous statements.
 
More like you better use your brain while watching basketball and study some real basketball stuff before talking with dem big boys.
But you could also start wondering how every guy who was labeled a shooting guard and at the same time was bad at long range shooting could fit your description so you can feel right about your ridiculous statements.

LOL.. bro...you're talking to the guy who's gone and broke all the rules to label Randle a SF in the NBA...


... and now you're calling him out for saying a SG need to be able to shoot????



WTF is this??? Have I somehow fallen through some sort of rabbit hole and gone into a parallel universe of sort???????? Someone please WAKE ME!!!!!
 
LOL.. bro...you're talking to the guy who's gone and broke all the rules to label Randle a SF in the NBA...


... and now you're calling him out for saying a SG need to be able to shoot????



WTF is this??? Have I somehow fallen through some sort of rabbit hole and gone into a parallel universe of sort???????? Someone please WAKE ME!!!!!

I'm talking to the only guy somehow connected to Utah who has the ability to match Kanter's BBIQ.
I'm just saying there's plenty successful shooting guards in the history of the game who couldn'T shoot from range over at least a significant portion of their career. First example is the guy who most people view as the best shooting guard of the last 10 years, since entering the league. He needed his knees to go so bad to develop a decent above average midrange game.
But you'd be a good Sacramento executive. Their track record to make questionable decisions lines up with your ability to project talent.
 
So, now that the Jazz and Warriors look like they will win some games, let's talk about best case scenarios for the Worst case scenario (let's say picks 10 and 22).

Here are a few scenarios I see.

1. Trade GS pick and Jazz pick to move up in the draft. I don't see any team in the top 5 taking this deal. I think you could move up to 6 or 7 but who would it be for Smart, Gordon? If someone like Exum/Randle/Embiid dropped, I don't see any team trading down.

2. Trade our pick and a player. I like this scenario. Jazz have to think about signing these players in the future and I don't see them able to pay for Burke, Hayward, Favors, Burks, Kanter, 2013 1st round pick x2. How far could we move up with our pick plus Kanter? Burks? Is hayward even tradeable as an RFA? Burke and Favors are here to stay imo.

3. Trade our pick, GS pick and a player (plus maybe 2015 or 2016 unprotected 1st). This would be the all in for 1 stud. Would any team bite for this? Say we moved Burks, #10, GS pick and 2016 first unprotected (or Kanter in place of Burks). Would a team sitting at 2 or 3 be willing to give up Parker/Wiggins/Embiid for any of these? This would be my hope for the Jazz. Assets and good players will only take you so far and at some point you need to go all in, but can you get someone to bite?

4. Jazz stand pat at 10. Which players that are there do you like? WCS as a defensive C? Young, Hood, Grant, McDermott as the starting SF? Harris or Levine at SG? Vonleh at PF and put Favors at C? If Gordon drops to 10, are we the team that bites on his potential? Personally my hope would be for 1. Gordon 2. WCS 3. Hood 4. Young. Granted people will drop, others will rise, and others will opt to wait for 2015 if not guaranteed to be in the lottery.

Let's just hope the basketball Gods shine down on the Jazz for not tanking (if they keep winning) and they get to the top 3 and get their game changer (I'm all for Parker, do what it takes to get him).
 
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So, now that the Jazz and Warriors look like they will win some games, let's talk about best case scenarios for the Worst case scenario (let's say picks 10 and 22).

Here are a few scenarios I see.

1. Trade GS pick and Jazz pick to move up in the draft. I don't see any team in the top 5 taking this deal. I think you could move up to 6 or 7 but who would it be for Smart, Gordon? If someone like Exum/Randle/Embiid dropped, I don't see any team trading down.

2. Trade our pick and a player. I like this scenario. Jazz have to think about signing these players in the future and I don't see them able to pay for Burke, Hayward, Favors, Burks, Kanter, 2013 1st round pick x2. How far could we move up with our pick plus Kanter? Burks? Is hayward even tradeable as an RFA? Burke and Favors are here to stay imo.

3. Trade our pick, GS pick and a player (plus maybe 2015 or 2016 unprotected 1st). This would be the all in for 1 stud. Would any team bite for this? Say we moved Burks, #10, GS pick and 2016 first unprotected (or Kanter in place of Burks). Would a team sitting at 2 or 3 be willing to give up Parker/Wiggins/Embiid for any of these? This would be my hope for the Jazz. Assets and good players will only take you so far and at some point you need to go all in, but can you get someone to bite?

4. Jazz stand pat at 10. Which players that are there do you like? WCS as a defensive C? Young, Hood, Grant, McDermott as the starting SF? Harris or Levine at SG? Vonleh at PF and put Favors at C? If Gordon drops to 10, are we the team that bites on his potential? Personally my hope would be for 1. Gordon 2. WCS 3. Hood 4. Young. Granted people will drop, others will rise, and others will opt to wait for 2015 if not guaranteed to be in the lottery.

Let's just hope the basketball Gods shine down on the Jazz for not tanking (if they keep winning) and they get to the top 3 and get their game changer (I'm all for Parker, do what it takes to get him).

wow wait until more of the season plays out before being chicken little.
 
wow wait until more of the season plays out before being chicken little.

I didn't say that was going to happen, but it is a possibility which I thought would be interesting to discuss. I guarantee you that DL is going through the exact same scenarios in his head right now. (if he's not he should be fired). What the hell else are we going to talk about in a Draft thread 6 months before the draft?
 
Bro... an SG... or a "Shooting Guard" ... has to be able to "Shoot".


I think that answers your question.
If you can get to the rim at will and get to the foul line, then you don't need to be a great shooter, just an adequate shooter, and I see no reason Smart can't at least develop an adequate shot.

Good hell kkk, somehow Randle can play sf in your screwed up mind, but Smart somehow can't play sg. What the hell is wrong with you.... Don't answer that.
 
If you can get to the rim at will and get to the foul line, then you don't need to be a great shooter, just an adequate shooter, and I see no reason Smart can't at least develop an adequate shot.

Good hell kkk, somehow Randle can play sf in your screwed up mind, but Smart somehow can't play sg. What the hell is wrong with you.... Don't answer that.

I was gonna write a whole essay on that... oh well you saved me some time.
 
If you can get to the rim at will and get to the foul line, then you don't need to be a great shooter, just an adequate shooter, and I see no reason Smart can't at least develop an adequate shot.

Good hell kkk, somehow Randle can play sf in your screwed up mind, but Smart somehow can't play sg. What the hell is wrong with you.... Don't answer that.

BTW - Smart is definitely not an above the rim type player. He'll struggle finishing around/at the rim in the NBA with longer defenders.
 
BTW - Smart is definitely not an above the rime type player. He'll struggle finishing around/at the rim in the NBA with longer defenders.

Right... Because guards are all above the rim players. Smart will be just fine against front court players. Trolling or just wrong as usual.
 
Right... Because guards are all above the rim players. Smart will be just fine against front court players. Trolling or just wrong as usual.

Well if you can't shoot the 3's and you can't shoot the mid range, that's all that's left for you to do, and I'm saying he won't even be able to do that.
 
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I'm just saying there's plenty successful shooting guards in the history of the game who couldn'T shoot from range over at least a significant portion of their career

@kkk.... think dwayne wade..... shooting guard who can't shoot. (And smart is a better shooter than d wade)
 
wow wait until more of the season plays out before being chicken little.

The writing is on the wall.... jazz are winning (on the road even) and schedule getting easier.

Warriors have only played 4 games against the east (schedule gets easier) and iggy just came back from injury
 
Well if you can't shoot the 3's and you can't shoot the mid range, that's all that's left for you to do, and I'm saying he won't even be able to do that.

I watched a game earlier this year where smart was like 6 for 10 from 3 or something like that and a lot of them were well defended threes.

Plus I once knew this guy named karl malone who couldnt make free throws very well and then he practiced at it and got much better.
 
I watched a game earlier this year where smart was like 6 for 10 from 3 or something like that and a lot of them were well defended threes.

Plus I once knew this guy named karl malone who couldnt make free throws very well and then he practiced at it and got much better.

Yeah, then the next game he went 1-5 from 3's from memory.


He was 29% beyond the "college arc" last year. This year there's this HUGE HYPE about how he had improved his shooting. He's currently sitting at 32% from 3's.


Thanks, but no thanks.
 
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