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Kyrie Irving dream

not gona happen.

But wow the ****ing cavs are god awful. How many lottery picks does this team need in order to be stop sucking?

unreal.
 
yamers said:
not gona happen.

But wow the ****ing cavs are god awful. How many lottery picks does this team need in order to be stop sucking?

unreal.
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Goes to show high draft picks don't mean that your going to be good. That's why we need more faith in our young guys.

It's not where you draft, it's how you draft.
 
framer said:
When referring to an All Star from the Eastern Conference iit important to include a "*" to separate an Eastern Conference All Star from actual all stars. Like this "All Star*"
Also, how many times does it need to be stressed that your All Star* should never be a point guard? A max salaried point is stupidity. Keep Burke and all of our pieces.
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The value you or I assign to Kyrie doesn't matter. I might disagree on your valuation but it still doesn't matter when discussing what it would take to get Kyrie. If you're going after him then letting Millsap walk was stupid. That's all.
 
Jazz4ever said:
I'm thinking he will be the next available superstar. It looks like he is in a pretty hopeless situation. The Deng deal backfired, they've won one game with him (Bucks) and just can't see Deng wanting to spend the last 4 good years of his career in Cleveland. They have squandered three top four picks on role players (waiters, thompson) and one bust (bennett). If the Cavs fear Irving will ask for a trade or fear he plays out his qualifying offer to get out, we could be suitors. I think the Jazz have some pieces Cleveland would really like and would have trouble acquiring in free agency or from another team.

Burke (he is obviously never going to be Kyrie but has shown he can lead a team to wins in the NBA with modest talent surrounding him.)
Hayward (While Deng probably wants a contender, Hayward would joyously sign in Cleveland as long as he gets his money, and Cleveland has plenty of money)
Gobert or Kanter (Varejo is getting old and think Cleveland realizes about now they need a true rim protector to win in this league, but if they want Kanter instead thats fine too)
Jazz future pick (whatever stipulations needed to make it work)

That's a nice package and not sure another team in this league could beat it without tearing their team apart. The Jazz get their #1 option and an allstar, who could potentially be a superstar. Going forward the Jazz starting lineup would then look like:

Irving
Burks
Free agent singing (Marvin might have to be resigned)
Aaron Gordon or Noah Vonleh
Favors

Bench:
Kanter or Gobert (whoever we kept)
Evans
Neto
GS pick
Rush (resigned)

Obviously this wouldn't happen til the off season, when Irving could be extended much like Harden was. Irving would also have to like our team enough to sign the extension. Getting a high pick would go a long way to help insure that. /dream
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Not going to happen because the Jazz would be dumb to trade for Irving knowing he can leave in FA after next year. Besides I have read rumors that Mr. Irving has developed a little bit of a "DW" attitude (per Byron Scott his former coach). Will everyone stop putting Rush on the Jazz next year, the guy is not the same player he use to be. The bench would suck even with Rush.
 
I wouldn't trade the point guard you hav enow for a streetballer slash chucker that Kyrie is. Kyrie has been all hype. Sure he made the all star team only because its a popularity contest. If not for the fans he wouldn't be sniffing the all star game
 
ncoloradojazz said:
I wouldn't trade the point guard you hav enow for a streetballer slash chucker that Kyrie is. Kyrie has been all hype. Sure he made the all star team only because its a popularity contest. If not for the fans he wouldn't be sniffing the all star game
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Do you enjoy anyone?
 
If you trade Irving for Burke, you will help the tank out.

That being said, I'd rather have Burke than Irving.
 
He has forgiven, as He is patient, and understanding.
 
framer said:
When referring to an All Star from the Eastern Conference iit important to include a "*" to separate an Eastern Conference All Star from actual all stars. Like this "All Star*"
Also, how many times does it need to be stressed that your All Star* should never be a point guard? A max salaried point is stupidity. Keep Burke and all of our pieces.
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A PG all star is still better than fringe all stars making around 12 million a year. Understand there are a bunch of bad owners and GMs in this league, and you have to proactively defend against them by making smart decisions. In a perfect world we keep Hayward, Burks, and Kanter for around 8 a year and can still chase some big names in free agency. The reality is these guys get 10-12 and lock you in to a long, painful treadmill.
 
Jazz4ever said:
A PG all star is still better than fringe all stars making around 12 million a year. Understand there are a bunch of bad owners and GMs in this league, and you have to proactively defend against them by making smart decisions. In a perfect world we keep Hayward, Burks, and Kanter for around 8 a year and can still chase some big names in free agency. The reality is these guys get 10-12 and lock you in to a long, painful treadmill.
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I think the Favors contract was exactly where it needed to be, maybe even a bit thrifty. DL knows what he is doing. I like our chances of filling in roster slots 7-12 with nice pieces found on the refuse pile on the cheap. The Jazz have had an eye for that lately, especially with the multiple picks we have coming in the near future that will be on the rookie scale. We will need some 15-22 picks to work on the salary grid. It looks like we have the ability to find value there. I'm not even a little bit worried about the salary structure until we start trading assets to max frail point guards.
 
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