Countdown to a Letdown--aka Jazz trade deadline 2014

[spycam1]

Still 13 mins bros

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Still 13 mins bros

DL never comes early.

 

[Stifle Tower]

Very quiet year for trades. Nothing major and no 1sts dealt. DL was wise in getting GS pick this summer - as were several other GM's. Wonder if this is a new trend? Teams are getting their finances aligned during free agency. No one has to dump contracts, although the Lakers have been trying to get under.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

After I saw the Hawes trade I pretty much knew nothing would happen. If Hawes can only land that, that means Marvin/Jefferson/Rush probably are only getting offers back that include long-term contracts, which I know DL doesn;t want.

 

[The Midnight]

Oh well, as long as Favors is still injured, then we're still OK for the tank.

 

[Stifle Tower]

After I saw the Hawes trade I pretty much knew nothing would happen. If Hawes can only land that, that means Marvin/Jefferson/Rush probably are only getting offers back that include long-term contracts, which I know DL doesn;t want.

Agree. No criticism from me for not making a deal.

 

[spycam1]

If we don't trade Hayward, and then don't match whatever he's offered in FA...holy ****.

 

[The Midnight]

If we don't trade Hayward, and then don't match whatever he's offered in FA...holy ****.

Can't we trade him in the offseason though? (ala the Harden trade)

 

[Stifle Tower]

Can't we trade him in the offseason though? (ala the Harden trade)

Yes. The only thing that can't be done is to trade him to the same team that he signs an offer sheet with (if he goes that route).

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Can't we trade him in the offseason though? (ala the Harden trade)

Yeah, we can do a sign and trade.

 

[The Midnight]

Thought this was funny... LOL... funny but true.

Jody Genessy ‏@DJJazzyJody 2m
Maybe Dennis Lindsey shouldn't have fleeced the T-Wolves on that draft-night deal last June.

 

[fishonjazz]

After I saw the Hawes trade I pretty much knew nothing would happen. If Hawes can only land that, that means Marvin/Jefferson/Rush probably are only getting offers back that include long-term contracts, which I know DL doesn;t want.

Agree. No criticism from me for not making a deal.

I agree

 

[The Midnight]

Yes. The only thing that can't be done is to trade him to the same team that he signs an offer sheet with (if he goes that route).

Yeah, we can do a sign and trade.

Well there you go.

 

[Deleted member 848]

Yeah, we can do a sign and trade.

SIgn-and-trades are less lucrative for non-max players-- I don't think that Hayward will be commanding a lot of max-contract attention. Can't imagine more than two teams contemplating maxing Hayward (excluding the Jazz, who'd probably match in both instances tbh)

 

[yamers]

what GM is out of their mind enough to MAX hayward?

lmao

 

[GVC]

Can't we trade him in the offseason though? (ala the Harden trade)

Harden was traded after his third season, while he was still under contract with the Thunder. The two situations are not comparable.

 

[The Midnight]

Harden was traded after his third season, while he was still under contract with the Thunder. The two situations are not comparable.

Wow.. why would OKC have done that? Couldn't they have kept him for 1 more year and just do a sign & trade in the offseason?


Seems to me they've jumped the gun.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Wow.. why would OKC have done that? Couldn't they have kept him for 1 more year and just do a sign & trade in the offseason?


Seems to me they've jumped the gun.

The point in trading Harden was to save money. If they did a S&T they would have to take back salary nearly equal to what Harden would have cost. Trading him on rookie deal allowed him to be traded for rookies and draft picks.

Use your brain KKK.

 

[The Midnight]

The point in trading Harden was to save money. If they did a S&T they would have to take back salary nearly equal to what Harden would have cost. Trading him on rookie deal allowed him to be traded for rookies and draft picks.

Use your brain KKK.

But they would have had 1 more chance at winning the Championship though right? They were RIGHT THERE knocking on Heats' door at the time, IIRC.


Plus they could have still gotten rookies & draft picks too, with expiring contracts to make the deal work.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

But they would have had 1 more chance at winning the Championship though right? They were RIGHT THERE knocking on Heats' door at the time, IIRC.


Plus they could have still gotten rookies & draft picks too, with expiring contracts to make the deal work.

They would still have to take back salary the owners weren't willing to spend. That is the point. IT WAS A MONEY SAVING MOVE.