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Time to call a LEMON a LEMON

How has this year been for ya?

  • Not even watching

    Votes: 12 33.3%

  • Like seeing my manhood get ripped off

    Votes: 4 11.1%

  • Like buying a Lemon car from the dealership

    Votes: 7 19.4%

  • Great!!! Go Jazz!!!

    Votes: 13 36.1%
  • Total voters
    36
Just out of sheer boredom I would have liked to see a move made. But just because they didn't doesn't mean I'm ready to give up on DL.

Now after the season if he keeps Corbin and keeps cutting bait with these expiring deals and revolving door of mediocre veteran players, then I might be ready to start looking for a new team to root for.
 
Mission Accomplished said:
What is cap room if you can't attracted FA? Boozer wasn't a big splash. Name a big splash who will come here?
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Dude, Boozer and Memo were both huge free agents to come to Utah. They were both all stars with the Jazz. Sure, we aren't getting LeBron, but 29 other teams are not either.
 
I'm at a loss as to why Marvin is still here, but it's hard to figure there was any great market for him or RJeff.

And by the way, any talk about Marvin needing to be kept so we can resign him is straight crazy. The guy will be lucky to get a 3 year deal on the open market, and I predict he'll sign a one year offer at less than the MLE. A multi-year deal for his services at virtually any number would be bidding against ourselves for a player that is easily replaceable.
 
billyshelby said:
I'm at a loss as to why Marvin is still here, but it's hard to figure there was any great market for him or RJeff.
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Spencer Hawes, a player producing better than Marvin Williams, who's owed less money and is also expiring, netting ZERO first round draft picks.

Market was indeed not there.
 
billyshelby said:
I'm at a loss as to why Marvin is still here, but it's hard to figure there was any great market for him or RJeff.

And by the way, any talk about Marvin needing to be kept so we can resign him is straight crazy. The guy will be lucky to get a 3 year deal on the open market, and I predict he'll sign a one year offer at less than the MLE. A multi-year deal for his services at virtually any number would be bidding against ourselves for a player that is easily replaceable.
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Marvin Williams suxxxors so many better players than marvan.
 
NO need to move jefferson.
he still needs more development time before he is ready to go to a contender.

we are not GONNA fail jefferson

we already failed Josh howard and raja bell.

we'll be dammed if we don't help Jefferson resurrect his career
 
mhindy said:
The Jazz are going to keep Marv, and I would much rather have him than a second rounder. If we can get him back for say 5m year, he would be an outstanding piece.
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The Jazz could still re-sign him if they traded him. Owning his Bird rights means nothing.

Additionally, re-signing him for nearly half the money after the best season of his life doesn't seem to hold much water. Also, him helping the team win now likely hurts the team substantially down the road.
 
NUMBERICA said:
The Jazz could still re-sign him if they traded him. Owning his Bird rights means nothing.

Additionally, re-signing him for nearly half the money after the best season of his life doesn't seem to hold much water. Also, him helping the team win now likely hurts the team substantially down the road.
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Best season of his life? The best season of his Jazz career, but his career is longer than 2 years.

He has had a pretty average year as far as his career goes. I'm pretty confident if you put him in the same role next year (on or off the bench) he would produce the same types of numbers.
 
The excitement when you see that the young guys will finally get playing time after wasting years of development........ Than you remember Corbin is the coach and he always finds a way to do something that doesn't make sense or match up with the players talents in any way.
And we are back at seeing the potential of the team, but it being capped off by management who is afraid to take risks with development and Corbin aligns with that perfectly by worrying more about getting instant results rather than developing chemistry between the actual core players who are here for the long term.
You don't start a rebuild/development year with a person you are unsure about. Creates instability with the players. Because he is more worried about his job than the future of the team.
Frustrating as a basketball fan. And its a pretty known thing among anyone that isn't a casual fan.
But Management and Ownership runs the team like a scared puppy. I guess I don't know why I am surprised ;)
 
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Darkwing Duck said:
Spencer Hawes, a player producing better than Marvin Williams, who's owed less money and is also expiring, netting ZERO first round draft picks.

Market was indeed not there.
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Fair enough, but was there really not a giveaway for Marvin? Somebody's dead weight expiring in exchange for a second round pick? Even a future one? If there was absolutely no way to pawn him off, I understand.

As a secondary point, why not buy Marvin out like Orlando did with Big Baby. Now that the deadline has passed, let him sign somewhere else and protect the tank.
 
billyshelby said:
Fair enough, but was there really not a giveaway for Marvin? Somebody's dead weight expiring in exchange for a second round pick? Even a future one? If there was absolutely no way to pawn him off, I understand.

As a secondary point, why not buy Marvin out like Orlando did with Big Baby. Now that the deadline has passed, let him sign somewhere else and protect the tank.
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We all know the Jazz don't buyout contracts. Not even sure they bought out Big Baby for tank reasons, might have just been because of his attitude in the lockerroom. Not like Big Baby made them any better.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
We all know the Jazz don't buyout contracts. Not even sure they bought out Big Baby for tank reasons, might have just been because of his attitude in the lockerroom. Not like Big Baby made them any better.
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Maybe they should. Freeing up Marvin, and RJeff for that matter, to sign with any team they choose sends a positive message in my book. We let veterans go on to better situations while we play our youth (and lose more). Who is not unhappy with this? The league vets appreciate the gesture, and Utah is better in all ways for doing it.
 
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Twin Towers said:
The excitement when you see that the young guys will finally get playing time after wasting years of development........ Than you remember Corbin is the coach and he always finds a way to do something that doesn't make sense or match up with the players talents in any way.
And we are back at seeing the potential of the team, but it being capped off by management who is afraid to take risks with development and Corbin aligns with that perfectly by worrying more about getting instant results rather than developing chemistry between the actual core players who are here for the long term.
You don't start a rebuild/development year with a person you are unsure about. Creates instability with the players. Because he is more worried about his job than the future of the team.
Frustrating as a basketball fan. And its a pretty known thing among anyone that isn't a casual fan.
But Management and Ownership runs the team like a scared puppy. I guess I don't know why I am surprised ;)
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Not sure I agree with that.
Could it be that the Jazz plan on having Favors, Hayward and Burke start next season along with their top pick plus a good FA?
And Kanter and Burks will continue to anchor the 2nd unit along with some upgrades (Neto, the GS pick, perhaps a 2nd FA)?
If that's the case, then they ARE building proper chemistry.
 
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