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Doublea said:
If Jabari goes there, then I might look into the team :P

I'm mostly just saying that they are in a nice position and I wish the jazz were like that too. It sucks that Denver has the hardest remaining schedule too.
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Detroit has a tough schedule too if you look at home vs. away games left.
Pelicans more favorable in that respect than Utah, but they're not even trying anymore. At least their next two are at Sacramento and the Lakers, so that will help whichever way those games end up. If NO doesn't put some distance on Utah in March, they'll finish with a worse record; they could/should go 0-for-April.
 
Core4 said:
Detroit has a tough schedule too if you look at home vs. away games left.
Pelicans more favorable in that respect than Utah, but they're not even trying anymore. At least their next two are at Sacramento and the Lakers, so that will help whichever way those games end up. If NO doesn't put some distance on Utah in March, they'll finish with a worse record; they could/should go 0-for-April.
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Where would that place them in the lottery? They are kind of treading dangerous waters if they don't get a top 5 pick with it going to the 76ers.
 
I know I'm going to take some flak for the following, but:
This offseason Dwayne Casey is available...Ujiri Masai is reportedly looking for a different guy leading from the sideline.
As the Raptors have a ton of early games for my timezone I wach them very often. I really like some of his offensive principles.
Especially the ones when the ball comes closer to the basket his concept instead of letting his wings in a dead angle move around the perimeter to have them slash in the paint which results in a lot of bunnys after handoffs and drop offs.
Some defensive help rotations are kind of meh IMO but that might be on some of the guys that create confusion in their middle as their defensive numbers since trading Gay have been pretty good as far as I remember(I really hope my memory doesn't trick me here)
 
BTP said:
I know I'm going to take some flak for the following, but:
This offseason Dwayne Casey is available...Ujiri Masai is reportedly looking for a different guy leading from the sideline.
As the Raptors have a ton of early games for my timezone I wach them very often. I really like some of his offensive principles.
Especially the ones when the ball comes closer to the basket his concept instead of letting his wings in a dead angle move around the perimeter to have them slash in the paint which results in a lot of bunnys after handoffs and drop offs.
Some defensive help rotations are kind of meh IMO but that might be on some of the guys that create confusion in their middle as their defensive numbers since trading Gay have been pretty good as far as I remember(I really hope my memory doesn't trick me here)
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BTP said:
I know I'm going to take some flak for the following, but:
This offseason Dwayne Casey is available...Ujiri Masai is reportedly looking for a different guy leading from the sideline.
As the Raptors have a ton of early games for my timezone I wach them very often. I really like some of his offensive principles.
Especially the ones when the ball comes closer to the basket his concept instead of letting his wings in a dead angle move around the perimeter to have them slash in the paint which results in a lot of bunnys after handoffs and drop offs.
Some defensive help rotations are kind of meh IMO but that might be on some of the guys that create confusion in their middle as their defensive numbers since trading Gay have been pretty good as far as I remember(I really hope my memory doesn't trick me here)
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If the raptors don't want him, he's probably decent.
 
Doublea said:
Where would that place them in the lottery? They are kind of treading dangerous waters if they don't get a top 5 pick with it going to the 76ers.
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Utah is currently in 8th. Of the EC teams, only Cleveland (or Atlanta or Charlotte depending on who grabs the #8 seed) seems like a lock to finish better than Utah. Slide ahead of Detroit, New Orleans and Denver and Utah could potentially finish with the 11th pick.

I may update the home/away and SOS chart I posted about 1 week ago. Will see if I have time tonight.
 
Phoenix put up 79 points on Atlanta in the first half. Hawks really missing that Millsap "D" (looks like he's out for this game).

Unfortunately Dallas lost at SA. Memphis still has to make up 2 games on GS. W's with a home-friendly schedule while Grizzlies have 6 more away than home. Going to be difficult.
 
Core4 said:
Utah is currently in 8th. Of the EC teams, only Cleveland (or Atlanta or Charlotte depending on who grabs the #8 seed) seems like a lock to finish better than Utah. Slide ahead of Detroit, New Orleans and Denver and Utah could potentially finish with the 11th pick.

I may update the home/away and SOS chart I posted about 1 week ago. Will see if I have time tonight.
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I meant about NO. Their only real incentive to tank is if their pick is top 5 therefore they get to keep it instead of giving it to the 76ers.
 
I thought the New Orleans pick was only top 3 protected. If that's the case (and even top 5) they have zero incentive to tank. Not getting that low unless they win the lottery.
 
Ellis269 said:
I thought the New Orleans pick was only top 3 protected. If that's the case (and even top 5) they have zero incentive to tank. Not getting that low unless they win the lottery.
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It's top 5 protected. They're 3 games back of that position so not impossible if they lose nearly every game (like they have been). If I'm their GM, I would like my odds of that over making the playoffs.
 
Jazz4ever said:
It's top 5 protected. They're 3 games back of that position so not impossible if they lose nearly every game (like they have been). If I'm their GM, I would like my odds of that over making the playoffs.
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This is like the GS situation. Lose, lose, lose to get into the 5th position or worse. They're probably hoping (but unlikely) they can drop behind Orlando so they could have an almost guaranteed chance of not dropping to 6th after the draft lottery.
 
If the Jazz get the 11th pick in the draft I might actually write physical letters to the organization. Finishing there would be more embarrassing than losing 60 games.
 
NUMBERICA said:
If the Jazz get the 11th pick in the draft I might actually write physical letters to the organization. Finishing there would be more embarrassing than losing 60 games.
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It would certainly be more damaging to our future.
 
Update!

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[tr]
[td]Lotto[/td]
[td]Team[/td]
[td]Conf.[/td]
[td]win[/td]
[td]loss[/td]
[td]win pct.[/td]
[td]tank alert(last 10 games)[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]1st[/td]
[td]Milwaukee Bucks[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]11[/td]
[td]47[/td]
[td].190[/td]
[td]2-8[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]2nd[/td]
[td]Philadelphia 76ers[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]15[/td]
[td]45[/td]
[td].250[/td]
[td]0-10[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]3rd[/td]
[td]Orlando Magic[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]19[/td]
[td]43[/td]
[td].306[/td]
[td]4-6[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]4th[/td]
[td]Boston Celtics[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]20[/td]
[td]40[/td]
[td].333[/td]
[td]3-7[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]5th[/td]
[td]Sacramento Kings*6[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]20[/td]
[td]39[/td]
[td].339[/td]
[td]3-7[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]6th[/td]
[td]L.A. Lakers[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]20[/td]
[td]39[/td]
[td].339[/td]
[td]3-7[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]7th[/td]
[td]New York Knicks*2[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]21[/td]
[td]39[/td]
[td].350[/td]
[td]1-9[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]8th[/td]
[td]Utah Jazz[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]21[/td]
[td]38[/td]
[td].368[/td]
[td]5-5[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]9th[/td]
[td]New Orleans Pelicans*1[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]23[/td]
[td]36[/td]
[td].390[/td]
[td]1-9[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]10th[/td]
[td]Detroit Pistons*5[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]23[/td]
[td]36[/td]
[td].390[/td]
[td]3-7[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]11th[/td]
[td]Cleveland Cavaliers[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]24[/td]
[td]37[/td]
[td].393[/td]
[td]6-4[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]12th[/td]
[td]Denver Nuggets*3[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]25[/td]
[td]33[/td]
[td].431[/td]
[td]1-9[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]13th[/td]
[td]Minnesota Timberwolves*9[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]29[/td]
[td]29[/td]
[td].500[/td]
[td]5-5[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]14th[/td]
[td]Memphis Grizzlies[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]33[/td]
[td]25[/td]
[td].569[/td]
[td]7-3[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]

Goden State Warriors: 23rd

On the edge in the West​

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[tr]
[td]Lotto[/td]
[td]Team[/td]
[td]win[/td]
[td]loss[/td]
[td]win pct.[/td]
[td]Last 10 games[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]6th[/td]
[td]Golden State Warriors[/td]
[td]36[/td]
[td]24[/td]
[td].600[/td]
[td]6-4[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]7th[/td]
[td]Phoenix Suns[/td]
[td]35[/td]
[td]24[/td]
[td].593[/td]
[td]6-4[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]8th[/td]
[td]Dallas Mavericks[/td]
[td]36[/td]
[td]25[/td]
[td].590[/td]
[td]6-4[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]9th[/td]
[td]Memphis Grizzlies[/td]
[td]33[/td]
[td]25[/td]
[td].569[/td]
[td]7-3[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]


*1 Philadelphia 76ers: Receives New Orleans Pelicans 2014 first-round pick (1-5 protected in 2014) via Jrue Holiday trade on 7/10/13.

*2 Denver Nuggets: Receives New York Knicks 2014 first-round pick via Carmelo Anthony trade on 02/22/11.

*3 Orlando Magic: Receives less favorable of Denver Nuggets/New York Knicks 2014 first-round pick via Dwight Howard trade on 8/10/12.

*4 Phoenix Suns: Receives Washington Wizards 2014 first-round pick (1-12 protected in 2014) via Marcin Gortat trade on 8/25/13.

*5 Charlotte Bobcats: Receives Detroit Pistons 2014 first-round pick (1-8 protected in 2014) via Ben Gordon trade on 6/26/12.

*6 Chicago Bulls: Receives Sacramento Kings 2014 first-round pick (1-12 protected in 2014) via J.J. Hickson trade on 6/30/11 to Cleveland. Via Luol Deng trade on 01/06/14

*7 Atlanta Hawks: Has right to swap 2014 first-round pick with Brooklyn Nets via Joe Johnson trade on 7/11/12.

*8 Chicago Bulls: Receives Charlotte’s 2014 first-round pick (1-10 protected in 2014) via Tyrus Thomas trade on 2/18/10.

*9 Phoenix Suns: Receives Minnesota Timberwolves 2014 first-round pick (1-13 protected in 2014) via Wesley Johnson trade on 7/27/13.

*10 Utah Jazz: Receive Golden State Warriors 2014 first-round pick (unprotected)


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[td]Seed[/td]
[td]1st[/td]
[td]2nd[/td]
[td]3rd[/td]
[td]4th[/td]
[td]5th[/td]
[td]6th[/td]
[td]7th[/td]
[td]8th[/td]
[td]9th[/td]
[td]10th[/td]
[td]11th[/td]
[td]12th[/td]
[td]13th[/td]
[td]14th[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]1st[/td]
[td].250[/td]
[td].215[/td]
[td].178[/td]
[td].357[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]2nd[/td]
[td].199[/td]
[td].188[/td]
[td].171[/td]
[td].319[/td]
[td].123[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]3rd[/td]
[td].156[/td]
[td].157[/td]
[td].156[/td]
[td].226[/td]
[td].265[/td]
[td].040[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]4th[/td]
[td].119[/td]
[td].126[/td]
[td].133[/td]
[td].099[/td]
[td].351[/td]
[td].160[/td]
[td].012[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]5th[/td]
[td].088[/td]
[td].097[/td]
[td].107[/td]
[td][/td]
[td].261[/td]
[td].360[/td]
[td].084[/td]
[td].004[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]6th[/td]
[td].063[/td]
[td].071[/td]
[td].081[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].439[/td]
[td].305[/td]
[td].040[/td]
[td].001[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]7th[/td]
[td].043[/td]
[td].049[/td]
[td].058[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].529[/td]
[td].232[/td]
[td].018[/td]
[td].000[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]8th[/td]
[td].028[/td]
[td].033[/td]
[td].039[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].724[/td]
[td].168[/td]
[td].008[/td]
[td].000[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]9th[/td]
[td].017[/td]
[td].020[/td]
[td].024[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].813[/td]
[td].122[/td]
[td].004[/td]
[td].000[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]10th[/td]
[td].011[/td]
[td].013[/td]
[td].016[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].870[/td]
[td].089[/td]
[td].002[/td]
[td].000[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]11th[/td]
[td].008[/td]
[td].009[/td]
[td].012[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].907[/td]
[td].063[/td]
[td].001[/td]
[td].000[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]12th[/td]
[td].007[/td]
[td].009[/td]
[td].012[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].935[/td]
[td].039[/td]
[td].000[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]13th[/td]
[td].006[/td]
[td].007[/td]
[td].009[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].960[/td]
[td].018[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]14th[/td]
[td].005[/td]
[td].006[/td]
[td].007[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].982[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]

Tank Ranking:
1. Philadelphia 76ers
2. New York Knicks
2. New Orleans Pelicans
2. Denver Nuggets




Wins for the worst teams since '03:

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[tr]
[td]Lotto[/td]
[td]03/04[/td]
[td]04/05[/td]
[td]05/06[/td]
[td]06/07[/td]
[td]07/08[/td]
[td]08/09[/td]
[td]09/10[/td]
[td]10/11[/td]
[td]12/13[/td]
[td]Average since 2003[/td]
[td]Last 5[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]1st[/td]
[td]21[/td]
[td]13[/td]
[td]21[/td]
[td]22[/td]
[td]15[/td]
[td]17[/td]
[td]12[/td]
[td]17[/td]
[td]20[/td]
[td]17,6[/td]
[td]16,2[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]2nd[/td]
[td]23[/td]
[td]18[/td]
[td]23[/td]
[td]24[/td]
[td]20[/td]
[td]19[/td]
[td]15[/td]
[td]19[/td]
[td]21[/td]
[td]20,2[/td]
[td]18,8[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]3rd[/td]
[td]25[/td]
[td]18[/td]
[td]26[/td]
[td]28[/td]
[td]22[/td]
[td]19[/td]
[td]25[/td]
[td]22[/td]
[td]24[/td]
[td]23,2[/td]
[td]22,4[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]4h[/td]
[td]28[/td]
[td]26[/td]
[td]26[/td]
[td]30[/td]
[td]22[/td]
[td]23[/td]
[td]26[/td]
[td]23[/td]
[td]25[/td]
[td]25,5[/td]
[td]23,8[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]5th[/td]
[td]28[/td]
[td]27[/td]
[td]27[/td]
[td]31[/td]
[td]23[/td]
[td]24[/td]
[td]26[/td]
[td]24[/td]
[td]27[/td]
[td]26,3[/td]
[td]24,8[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]6th[/td]
[td]33[/td]
[td]30[/td]
[td]33[/td]
[td]32[/td]
[td]23[/td]
[td]24[/td]
[td]27[/td]
[td]24[/td]
[td]28[/td]
[td]28,2[/td]
[td]25,2[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]7th[/td]
[td]33[/td]
[td]33[/td]
[td]33[/td]
[td]32[/td]
[td]26[/td]
[td]29[/td]
[td]27[/td]
[td]30[/td]
[td]29[/td]
[td]30,2[/td]
[td]28,2[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]8th[/td]
[td]35[/td]
[td]33[/td]
[td]34[/td]
[td]33[/td]
[td]32[/td]
[td]32[/td]
[td]29[/td]
[td]32[/td]
[td]29[/td]
[td]32,1[/td]
[td]30,8[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]
 
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