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oldtimer said:
So after 20 percent of the season is over and your in last place you should change tactics.
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This.

Maybe the jazz didnt think they would have had a chance at top 3 before the season began but after the horrible start they should have changed tactics and made the roster even worse and held out players longer than necessary and for weak *** reasons. (Vertigo, a cold, etc)
 
oldtimer said:
Phily was winning too many games so they traded everyone at the deadline for a bag of chips in an effort to lose. You can't tell me that losing was not intentional. Gms and coaches not players should try to lose. Players play to win it is in their dna. Gms and coaches have to be smart enough to lose when necessary. Even golden states playera tried to win. Mark jacskon just benched any player who made more than 1 shot.

Regardless of whether you believe we were to good to compete for the first pick, the fact is we were in forth place with less than 10 gamea remaining and only 2or 3 gamea out of third. We aren't that good. We could have easily grabbed the 3rd pick by losing out all games from orlando on.

If phily hadn't traded everyone and the bucks hadn't emploded who knows.
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Absolutely NOT true about GS. I watched the last 20 games. Players were intentionally throwing the ball away and taking wild shots. And the GS players and Mark Jackson were dancing and laughing on the sideline.

But you are contradicting yourself. If players and coaches don't lose, then what could Lindsey have done the last 2 weeks or month to ensure a 4th or 3rd place finish? Waive Hayward? Look up Gillooly to see if he would take out Favors' knee?

You haven't made one valid suggestion of how Lindsey could have ensured the Jazz finish with a bottom-3 record. Short of sticking with JLIII and Tinsley and somehow convincing Burke to sit out the season - or TELLING Ty to INTENTIONALLY lose the last 10 games. And how do you think THAT would go over in the commissioner's office. I'm sure there would be serious sanctions levied against Utah.
 
fishonjazz said:
This.

Maybe the jazz didnt think they would have had a chance at top 3 before the season began but after the horrible start they should have changed tactics and made the roster even worse and held out players longer than necessary and for weak *** reasons. (Vertigo, a cold, etc)
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So the Jazz play Clark, Thomas, Rush, Biedrins and JLIII over Kanter, Favors, Hayward, Burke and Burks. Yep, and then guys like you would be screaming that the future is in jeopardy because the youngsters can't develop unless they get playing time.
 
GS loses, I thought Curry was going to have another game winner. Even if they don't fall out of the playoffs we can at least hope the pick goes a few spots lower.
 
Nuggets won, what a fight they just put up. I love watching GS lose, especially in their home floor.

I don't think GS will miss the playoffs (that ship sailed), however if they fall to 7 or 8 that means we move up a few spots
 
latin jazz said:
Nuggets won, what a fight they just put up. I love watching GS lose, especially in their home floor.

I don't think GS will miss the playoffs (that ship sailed), however if they fall to 7 or 8 that means we move up a few spots
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Won't miss because Phoenix, Dallas and Memphis have games against each other remaining. But GS is now unlikely to pass Portland and we could end up with a pick in the 21-22 range instead of 23-24.
 
Core4 said:
Won't miss because Phoenix, Dallas and Memphis have games against each other remaining. But GS is now unlikely to pass Portland and we could end up with a pick in the 21-22 range instead of 23-24.
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And if GS lose a couple of games, there is a slim chance either Toronto or Chicago pass them on the standings (draft order). Both have an easy schedule
 
latin jazz said:
Nuggets won, what a fight they just put up. I love watching GS lose, especially in their home floor.

I don't think GS will miss the playoffs (that ship sailed), however if they fall to 7 or 8 that means we move up a few spots
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I watched a bit of that game tonight. Two things struck me, first was how hard Denver played and second was how easy it would be for me to cheer for the Warriors if it wasn't for Mark Jackson & the traded picks. Or for the Nuggets if they weren't from Denver.

Both teams are far ahead of our beloved jazz.
 
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Core4 said:
So the Jazz play Clark, Thomas, Rush, Biedrins and JLIII over Kanter, Favors, Hayward, Burke and Burks. Yep, and then guys like you would be screaming that the future is in jeopardy because the youngsters can't develop unless they get playing time.
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Favors missed 9 games we won zero of them. How hard is it to give a guy a tainted burrito? I really hope he sits for LA. LA has some guys that are dieing to prove themselves I think we can lose that game.
 
I have to say this WC playoff race is tight and the schedule is right on point. Each of the 3 teams plays each other once more. That's what I call a good finish!
 
BTP said:
I have to say this WC playoff race is tight and the schedule is right on point. Each of the 3 teams plays each other once more. That's what I call a good finish!
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Man GS is holding on with a thin thread. They lose and then Dallas loses. I still am hoping for a miracle even though none of the teams below GS seem to want to make the playoffs. The Mavs, Griz, and Suns haven't been able to take advantage of GS losing. It would be awesome if GS lost all their remaining games and missed the playoffs. I know there is about a 2 percent chance of that happening.

Dallas is done they still have a hard schedule. GS will get in because they don't play any of the other teams.
 
cowhide said:
Man GS is holding on with a thin thread. They lose and then Dallas loses. I still am hoping for a miracle even though none of the teams below GS seem to want to make the playoffs. The Mavs, Griz, and Suns haven't been able to take advantage of GS losing. It would be awesome if GS lost all their remaining games and missed the playoffs. I know there is about a 2 percent chance of that happening.

Dallas is done they still have a hard schedule. GS will get in because they don't play any of the other teams.
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I don't think Dallas is done. They have 2 more wins(also games) than Memphis and their last two are Memphis and Phoenix.
Phoenix has 1 less W and 1 less L than Dallas, but they visit San Antonio tonight and Dallas tomorrow. In addition they host the Grizz's on monday and finish @ Sacto on wednesday.
Memphis can pick up 2 freebies tonight vs Philly and at LA on Sunday. Monday they visit Phoenix and host Dallas on wednesday.

So if I assume both beat the cellar dwellers and Phoenix loses at San Antonio tonight, we have a draw situation and a 3 way tiebreaker series between Saturday and Wednesday.
 
Core4 said:
So the Jazz play Clark, Thomas, Rush, Biedrins and JLIII over Kanter, Favors, Hayward, Burke and Burks. Yep, and then guys like you would be screaming that the future is in jeopardy because the youngsters can't develop unless they get playing time.
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They could have made some moves to get worse and play the youth more minutes. (Trade marv and jeffy for nothing)

Also could have held players out with bogus injuries more often.

But they did nothing at all.
Didnt change any strategies.

but hey, it still worked out pretty damn good. Even if they got rid of a few guys for garbage and held guys out with fake injuries we couldnt have lost much more than we have recently
 
It's starting to get down to the wire here folks. Some big, Big games tonight.

WAS @ ORL
CHA @ BOS
PHI @ MEM
PHX @ SAS
POR @ UTA
GS @ LAL

This could be a great or horrible night for the Jazz's two picks thi syear.

If ORL & BOS win and UTA loses than it is a 3 way tie for 3rd. Need LA to beat GS and that would place them 2 games behind UTA if the Jazz lose tonight.

If Memphis and Phoenix win and GS loses than that will tie PHX and GS for the 6th seed and make Dallas a 1/2 game behind and Memphis 1 game behind in 9th.
 
fishonjazz said:
They could have made some moves to get worse and play the youth more minutes. (Trade marv and jeffy for nothing)

Also could have held players out with bogus injuries more often.

But they did nothing at all.
Didnt change any strategies.

but hey, it still worked out pretty damn good. Even if they got rid of a few guys for garbage and held guys out with fake injuries we couldnt have lost much more than we have recently
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You don't think they tried to trade RJ and Marvin? $8M and $11M are not tradeable contracts, especially for their production. How many teams that are trying to make the playoffs had cap space to take on those two? Now had they been making close to the vet minimum, there would have been a market for them.
 
Stoked said:
It's starting to get down to the wire here folks. Some big, Big games tonight.

WAS @ ORL
CHA @ BOS
PHI @ MEM
PHX @ SAS
POR @ UTA
GS @ LAL

This could be a great or horrible night for the Jazz's two picks thi syear.

If ORL & BOS win and UTA loses than it is a 3 way tie for 3rd. Need LA to beat GS and that would place them 2 games behind UTA if the Jazz lose tonight.

If Memphis and Phoenix win and GS loses than that will tie PHX and GS for the 6th seed and make Dallas a 1/2 game behind and Memphis 1 game behind in 9th.
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I'm trying not to get too excited. Even IF Orlando or Boston win, Utah has at least another win in them. So the tie might be temporary. It would be nice to see LAL win over the GS Cheaters.
 
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