Following potential 2014 draftees

[The Midnight]

I don't think anyone outside the top 4 will be. I mean, there's always a chance that someone could surpass expectations... but no, not really.

Who would you consider to be game-changing franchise players?

I'm just playing devil's advocate here guys... trying to find that 1 guy outside of top 7 that could be a game changing franchise player ala Paul Gorge, Ginobili, Parket, etc. ... instead of going through the motion with Gordon, Vonleh and Smart.


I'm saying it's time we dig a big deeper and find that diamond in the rough.

 

[spycam1]

I'm just playing devil's advocate here guys... trying to find that 1 guy outside of top 7 that could be a game changing franchise player ala Paul Gorge, Ginobili, Parket, etc. ... instead of going through the motion with Gordon, Vonleh and Smart.


I'm saying it's time we dig a big deeper and find that diamond in the rough.

Ginobili? Really? When you say franchise changer, I think of the best player on a contender.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Aaron Gordon is too OP tbh.

 

[The Midnight]

Ginobili? Really? When you say franchise changer, I think of the best player on a contender.

Ginobili in his prime was a game changer.

 

[The Midnight]

Aaron Gordon is too OP tbh.

Thinking along that game changing line, I would pick Gordon over Vonleh and Smart.



Go big or go home bitches.

 

[spycam1]

Ginobili in his prime was a game changer.

You said franchise player.

I definitely think Smart, Gordon, Vonleh etc. could be "game changers".

 

[spycam1]

Thinking along that game changing line, I would pick Gordon over Vonleh and Smart.



Go big or go home bitches.

So you're moving Randle below Gordon now?

 

[slc]

How many game changing players are in the league right now?
Lebron and Durant may be the only two right now.
Kobe's no longer on that list. His game changing days may be over.
There does not seem to any on the horizon either.
Are the days of the game changing player over?
With no game changers out there how does a team build a contender?
Does a team need the #1 pick to push them over the top?

 

[Hantlers]

I'm just playing devil's advocate here guys... trying to find that 1 guy outside of top 7 that could be a game changing franchise player ala Paul Gorge, Ginobili, Parket, etc. ... instead of going through the motion with Gordon, Vonleh and Smart.


I'm saying it's time we dig a big deeper and find that diamond in the rough.

Would you care to name any players?

Go deep Nickkkkk, go deep.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

How many game changing players are in the league right now?
Lebron and Durant may be the only two right now.
Kobe's no longer on that list. His game changing days may be over.
There does not seem to any on the horizon either.
Are the days of the game changing player over?
With no game changers out there how does a team build a contender?
Does a team need the #1 pick to push them over the top?

There a lot of game changing players in the NBA.

Lebron is just the most consistent and dominant of them all.

Aldridge is a "game changer". Clearly he has the ability to take over and win any game, but he just doesn't do it all the time. Same with Lillard/Harden/Curry/etc.

 

[The Midnight]

So you're moving Randle below Gordon now?

NooOooooOooOooo.... Randle, Gordon, Vonleh, Smart, in that order.

 

[8]

They cease to be diamonds in the rough if you pick them way higher than they are projected. They just become a high-risk lottery pick

 

[The Midnight]

Would you care to name any players?

Go deep Nickkkkk, go deep.

We'll have to wait and see at the Combine and the workouts as to who jumps out. I remember Kenneth Faried really jumped out during the Combine and Paul George during the workouts.

As it stands 5/6 I'd definitely go Randle/Gordon as potential game changers... At #7 and beyond I'll have to wait for more info/data to come to light.

 

[The Midnight]

They cease to be diamonds in the rough if you pick them way higher than they are projected. They just become a high-risk lottery pick

Not if it's unexpected - ala the Bennett pick last year. Had he tore up the league, it would have been a diamond in the rough type pick even though he was picked #1.

 

[orangello]

If there is such thing as a shot-blocking, stretch big, sign me the **** up. If Porzingis or Austin is that guy, you absolutely look into getting that, even if they don't give you much else. I'm not sure that there is one of those in the NBA, and the last one I can think of would be 'Sheed.

Great point.

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[orangello]

Our center that is a wildly overrated defender, athlete, and is practically invisible half the time? Who also gets backed down?

So much this. Favors has (unfairly) dodged a lot of criticism around here.

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[fishonjazz]

There a lot of game changing players in the NBA.

Lebron is just the most consistent and dominant of them all.

Aldridge is a "game changer". Clearly he has the ability to take over and win any game, but he just doesn't do it all the time. Same with Lillard/Harden/Curry/etc.

This.

There are probably over 20 game changers.

 

[orangello]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aGVf0m_B4Y#t=47

Porzingis has range out to 70 feet (0:39)

Where's Fabtrey? I need his expert length detection to tell me if this is really 70 ft and not just 69 ft.

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[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Based on what? His haircut?

Based on his natural talent, shooting touch and scoring instincts.

Probably the haircut too, but I haven't noticed much.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I dunno... I still think we need to grab a "diamond in the rough" type pick if we're #5 or worse. There must be a Paul George, a Roy Hibbert, a Tony Parker somewhere from #5 onwards... we just need to find that guy.

did you just say Roy Hibbert?