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Who Should the Jazz Select With the 5th Pick


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Looks like you've been watching YouTube. He's got a shot, nice little 17 footer. Catch and shot or pull up. He has a lot of dunks because he outruns his man, and a lot of layup a because his crossover is deceptive.

Kind of annoying that all anyone puts in highlight videos are dunks. More so that fans view a few and then are suddenly experts on him.

I will trust scouts. That's why I am not commenting on the other players, I have not watched every game or followed them.

FYI... Gordon is not a guaranteed superstar but he's not the trash you make him out to be. USA Basketball MVP. He's a smart player, very athletic, creates his own shot, works hard on defense. He's bad at free throws though. Amazing work ethic though.

Well if he has such an amazing work ethnic then why is he so bad a FTs? Just asking. He needs to lock himself in the gym and not leave until he can make 3/4 without sweating.
 
Looks like you've been watching YouTube. He's got a shot, nice little 17 footer. Catch and shot or pull up. He has a lot of dunks because he outruns his man, and a lot of layup a because his crossover is deceptive.

Kind of annoying that all anyone puts in highlight videos are dunks. More so that fans view a few and then are suddenly experts on him.

I will trust scouts. That's why I am not commenting on the other players, I have not watched every game or followed them.

FYI... Gordon is not a guaranteed superstar but he's not the trash you make him out to be. USA Basketball MVP. He's a smart player, very athletic, creates his own shot, works hard on defense. He's bad at free throws though. Amazing work ethic though.

His shot form looked pretty terrible tbh. It's like he models that to Blake griffin.
 
His shot form looked pretty terrible tbh. It's like he models that to Blake griffin.

I've never claimed he had no red flags. I just don't agree that he's trash. I don't think his game shot looks bad, but his free throw form is terrible. The thing I'm pushing back on is this trend on jazzfanz that went from "he's got no free throw" to "he's got no O game, defensive player only". News flash, he's not a lock down defender either. He works hard and is a good defender. He's not useless on offense either.

He's a good basketball player who will likely go at 5 or 6. If he had a super polished jumpshot then he would be in consideration for top 3.

And he's NOTHING like Blake Griffin. He's a 3 who can play the 4 when needed.
 
I've never claimed he had no red flags. I just don't agree that he's trash. I don't think his game shot looks bad, but his free throw form is terrible. The thing I'm pushing back on is this trend on jazzfanz that went from "he's got no free throw" to "he's got no O game, defensive player only". News flash, he's not a lock down defender either. He works hard and is a good defender. He's not useless on offense either.

He's a good basketball player who will likely go at 5 or 6. If he had a super polished jumpshot then he would be in consideration for top 3.

And he's NOTHING like Blake Griffin. He's a 3 who can play the 4 when needed.

Yeah I agree, you had just said he has a nice little 17 footer.
 
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Hopper.

What a perfect nickname.
 
Yeah I agree, you had just said he has a nice little 17 footer.


Yes, he does have a good 17 foot jumper. He's gonna need more than that, but I think he'll get there. I've said in other threads that his upside is Pippen and I'll stand by that. Pippen struggled in early years. In a few years I think any team would be happy to have him.
 
Yes, he does have a good 17 foot jumper. He's gonna need more than that, but I think he'll get there. I've said in other threads that his upside is Pippen and I'll stand by that. Pippen struggled in early years. In a few years I think any team would be happy to have him.

It's sort of baffling how underrated Pippen is to some people. Best SF ever until Bron. Comparing a guy to him is silly.

A Gordon is more Jan Vesely than he is Pippen.


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It's sort of baffling how underrated Pippen is to some people. Best SF ever until Bron. Comparing a guy to him is silly.

A Gordon is more Jan Vesely than he is Pippen.


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Vesely is a better comparison than Griffin. However, still not a good one IMO. Gordon is a much better playmaker. He ran the point some in high school as well as in some Arizona scrimmages. He could play either wing position in terms if ball handling and shooting. More of a point forward type.

I remember pippen well. I remember how mad fans were when he was drafted. Most fans were calling him a bust after just first year... he was a single digit scorer and I also remember him being a really bad free throw shooter as a rookie. He became a legendary small forward and I honestly believe Gordon has the tools to also become a great forward.

https://youtu.be/kcX5e6p0B70

There are a lot of variables. Right coach, right system, right support, work ethic done intelligently. However, he has the instincts needed.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he's a sure thing, but the potential is there. I think his downside is higher than Marvin Williams, and his upside is very high.
 
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I am on board with picking Gordon. Everyone at 5 has their own flaws. I think he probably has the highest ceiling of anybody we could pick there. Therefore, shoot for the moon.
 
I am on board with picking Gordon. Everyone at 5 has their own flaws. I think he probably has the highest ceiling of anybody we could pick there. Therefore, shoot for the moon.

I think Vonleh has a higher ceiling than Gordon FWIW, if we're talking about Chris Bosh / LeMarcus Aldridge type potential.



Even if Gordon becomes Blake (and that's a big IF), I'm still saying Aldridge is a better talent.
 
^actually, this.

Vonleh has the tools necessary to be very good.
Whereas Gordon is a bit more of a gimmick.
 
^actually, this.

Vonleh has the tools necessary to be very good.
Whereas Gordon is a bit more of a gimmick.

Then do you think Exum has more potential than Vonleh? If so by how much, and is it worth giving up #23 to grab him?
 
Then do you think Exum has more potential than Vonleh? If so by how much, and is it worth giving up #23 to grab him?

I would do that in a MINUTE, if need be.. not because of my own opinion, but the opinions of those I trust that are saying Exum will be spectacular.
 
I think Vonleh has a higher ceiling than Gordon FWIW, if we're talking about Chris Bosh / LeMarcus Aldridge type potential.



Even if Gordon becomes Blake (and that's a big IF), I'm still saying Aldridge is a better talent.

Gordon will never be Blake, and Blake will never be Gordon. They are COMPLETELY different players. I guess because they are around the same height and jump really high everyone wanted to make comparisons. You draft Vonleh if your looking for a 4, you draft Gordon if you are looking for a 3.
 
Gordon will never be Blake, and Blake will never be Gordon. They are COMPLETELY different players. I guess because they are around the same height and jump really high everyone wanted to make comparisons. You draft Vonleh if your looking for a 4, you draft Gordon if you are looking for a 3.

Don't you have school today? Run along little child.
 
Don't you have school today? Run along little child.

What's the matter, can't handle someone pointing out when you are wrong? Well, BallIsLife.com started making that Blake comparison about a year ago and everyone jumped on the bandwagon. I guess you must be right, after all they are the epitome of credibility.

This is an interesting interview.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lROsE8Pc0wY
 
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