#NBA Source told me the #Jazz are close on a deal with the Cavs for Favors, #5 & #23 ...also talk to Bucks who seem to be firm at #2
I am also told the #Jazz seem to be hesitant to deal next years picks, they feel Favors #5 & #23 is more than enough to make a deal
Consensus around the internet [from non-Jazz fans] is that Derrick would easily be a 4-6 pick in this year's draft, so this is akin the Jazz offering 4, 5, and 23 for #1.
With Embiid out the picture, this is a top 3 draft so Orlando's 4 no longer trumps Jazz 5, and Favors + 23 is worth more than Afflalo and #12.
Consensus around the internet [from non-Jazz fans] is that Derrick would easily be a 4-6 pick in this year's draft, so this is akin the Jazz offering 4, 5, and 23 for #1.
With Embiid out the picture, this is a top 3 draft so Orlando's 4 no longer trumps Jazz 5, and Favors + 23 is worth more than Afflalo and #12.
College Derrick would be but four year, limited offense, passive Derrick, knowing what we know now, would probably go around 7-8 imo. With these rookies, there is a lot of hope that they really develop. Derrick's development, at this point, seems much more limited.
To me, and not that it's hugely different, it's more like offering 4 + 8 + 23 for 1 which is too much imo.
I stand by letting the Cavs take their guy and hoping Embiid falls to 5 where we snag him and try to get the wheels turning on the 3 team trade with the Kings that I fleshed out yesterday.
College Derrick would be but four year, limited offense, passive Derrick, knowing what we know now, would probably go around 7-8 imo. With these rookies, there is a lot of hope that they really develop. Derrick's development, at this point, seems much more limited.
To me, and not that it's hugely different, it's more like offering 4 + 8 + 23 for 1 which is too much imo.
I stand by letting the Cavs take their guy and hoping Embiid falls to 5 where we snag him and try to get the wheels turning on the 3 team trade with the Kings that I fleshed out yesterday.
If the hold up is our 2015 1st rounder it shouldn't be. DL, do the deed.
When did the Jazz move up to get #4?
I couldn't do that easily. What if OKC didn't have their pick in Durants first year? No westbrook.
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What if injuries cause Utah to win 25 games again. Or what if they win 40, but win one a top-3 pick in the lottery? You have to at least put SOME protection on the pick. I'd make it top-5. But in that case, it's the 2015 pick and NOT the #23. Can't have both.I couldn't do that easily. What if OKC didn't have their pick in Durants first year? No westbrook.
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Will it be Wiggins or
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Throw in the 2015 pick, and then trade #23 for someone's 1st round pick next year (with very low protection). That way we're not out of the 2015 first round entirely.
Then make Portland give is Lillard just because.
This. (at least I hope)I do think they have the parameters of a deal done and it will depend on who is available at 5. I think if Exum or Embiid is available we will have a deal. If it is Vonleh and Gordon I don't think the Cavs will bite.