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Rumor: Jazz prepared to match 'any offer' for Hayward.

richgates said:
I like Gordon, but if someone offers his a max deal and the Jazz match, it's going to be like AK all over again. How many guys who should be third options on a team are getting max money in the NBA?
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not even remotely similar to ak. the salary structure is way different. AK was like 30% of the salary cap at the end of his deal. Hayward at best with get the 4 year mini max, which will cap at about 16 million on a much larger salary cap. You are comparing apples and oranges.
 
b_line said:
not even remotely similar to ak. the salary structure is way different. AK was like 30% of the salary cap at the end of his deal. Hayward at best with get the 4 year mini max, which will cap at about 16 million on a much larger salary cap. You are comparing apples and oranges.
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Maybe I should have expounded a bit more. My point is that the Jazz overpaid for AK, and if they match a max deal on Hayward they will be doing the same. In both cases it limits spending on other free agents/RFA's. Hayward does not deserve max money, period.
 
VINYLONE said:
As Snoop from The Wire once said, "Deserve got nothin' to do with it."


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yep.
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];859374 said:
Due diligence. Saying this helps drive down the interest other teams have.
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This will be interesting. .


I don't think any team out there is dumb enough to give him max, and we already offered 10 per. Which team wants to even waste their time knowing that we will do what we always do, which is wait the full time allowed before matching.

What happens if doesn't get any offers? Do we re offer the 10 per, or does he take the qualifying offer?
 
So at this point, would you guys rather have Gordon Hayward or Eric Gordon? Pretty crazy that Eric Gordon got the max and has not really played since. If you look at it that way, a max deal for Hayward looks like a good deal. I am not advocating the max for Hayward, but the point that he is a reliable player is worth something. He will probably not miss time, and while his ceiling is somewhat lower than Eric Gordon's, he is nowhere near as poutty.
 
b_line said:
So at this point, would you guys rather have Gordon Hayward or Eric Gordon? Pretty crazy that Eric Gordon got the max and has not really played since. If you look at it that way, a max deal for Hayward looks like a good deal. I am not advocating the max for Hayward, but the point that he is a reliable player is worth something. He will probably not miss time, and while his ceiling is somewhat lower than Eric Gordon's, he is nowhere near as poutty.
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*pouty


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Hayward is the only other player other than Maravich in Jazz history to average at least 16, 5, and 5, for a whole season.
 
b_line said:
So at this point, would you guys rather have Gordon Hayward or Eric Gordon? Pretty crazy that Eric Gordon got the max and has not really played since. If you look at it that way, a max deal for Hayward looks like a good deal. I am not advocating the max for Hayward, but the point that he is a reliable player is worth something. He will probably not miss time, and while his ceiling is somewhat lower than Eric Gordon's, he is nowhere near as poutty.
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Eric gordon got that deal due to how he played when he was healthy..... all star level.
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];859374 said:
Due diligence. Saying this helps drive down the interest other teams have.
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Yes, sort of. The danger is that it could backfire--if a team like Portland KNOWS the Jazz will match, then they could make a ridiculous offer because there's no chance they'd get stuck with Hayward for that price.
 
colton said:
Yes, sort of. The danger is that it could backfire--if a team like Portland KNOWS the Jazz will match, then they could make a ridiculous offer because there's no chance they'd get stuck with Hayward for that price.
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Yeah, but if Utah says they will match anything, and Portland does that offer but doesn't want him, then Utah "changes" their minds, Portland is stuck with a player they didn't even want with a max contract. Super risky move if anyone is just trying to **** us over.
 
b_line said:
not even remotely similar to ak. the salary structure is way different. AK was like 30% of the salary cap at the end of his deal. Hayward at best with get the 4 year mini max, which will cap at about 16 million on a much larger salary cap. You are comparing apples and oranges.
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Exactly. Really have no problem money-wise until his next contract rolls around. Then Jazz have to look forward at all their players, pay 3 of them top dollar (and ask for "hometown discounts), hope a couple more will stick for reasonable contracts and supplement with all those additional picks they've accumulated.
 
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