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Hayward has agreed to an offer with Hornets

bjunior said:
i can understand hayward though, the last 3 years the jazz organization sucked big time
maybe if they were heading this team properly the last years, then hayward would be willing to sign a reasonable deal here
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Sure, I agree, from Hayward's perspective, it's a no-brainer. I'd lose confidence in a franchise that kept Corbin as a coach for three years.
 
bjunior said:
if the jazz don't match, everyone will lose towards other teams

the jazz will lose a good player
the hornets will lose any chance to be good in a long run
from a basketball point of view, hayward will lose too

i can understand hayward though, the last 3 years the jazz organization sucked big time
maybe if they were heading this team properly the last years, then hayward would be willing to sign a reasonable deal here
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Hayward always seemed to me like the sort of player who just hated losing, but not in the good way where you take charge and drive your team to victory, more in the way where he just wishes winning would be easier. Hornets will probably be winning more games than us whether we match or not, so i can see why he would prefer to go there.

having said that i have always liked hayward and will fully support him whatever we are paying him
 
I think the Jazz will match. I was hoping he'd get an offer no higher than 14.5 million per year. This is a little higher than I like but not so far off. I think he's still developing and will grow into the contract, And am excited to see how Snyder utilizes him. Corbin had almost everything going through Hayward last year. He was creating for everybody else. But very little was created for him. It's not hard to see why his shooting percentages dropped.
 
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Hayward going to Charlotte and will eat up some of MKG's minutes. MKG is one of best defensive 3's in the league and they will downgrade defensively to one of the worst in Hayward. Their defense will suffer.
 
The Blue Elephant said:
Hayward going to Charlotte and will eat up some of MKG's minutes. MKG is one of best defensive 3's in the league and they will downgrade defensively to one of the worst in Hayward. Their defense will suffer.
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Hayward at the 2? His playmaking ability's gonna complement MKG's slashing ability too. I think they'll make a good pair.
 
Hotttnickkk said:
Hayward at the 2? His playmaking ability's gonna complement MKG's slashing ability too. I think they'll make a good pair.
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Ouch both the 2 and 3 can't make 3's at a consistent rate then. Gordon Hayward is a shorter Hedo Turkoglu with 10% less on his 3 pt shooting. This Gordon Hayward contract will be worse then the Raptors contract for Hedo.
 
The Jazz and their perpetual "let the market set the number" are the reason he has this contract. Wed Mayhews, Paul Milsap, etc.

This league overpays for young talent. Jazz gambled and lost.
 
don't forget, they will have to extend kemba and mkg the next 2 seasons

now this guys will demand their money too

let them have this deal with all the consequences
 
The Blue Elephant said:
Ouch both the 2 and 3 can't make 3's at a consistent rate then. Gordon Hayward is a shorter Hedo Turkoglu with 10% less on his 3 pt shooting. This Gordon Hayward contract will be worse then the Raptors contract for Hedo.
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With Big Al as the low post presence, Hayward's 3pt % is sure to rise.
 
Uggggg. I gotta wake up to this?

Count me in on the "don't match" side if this.

What a terrible contract.


We need to send a message to the league on this. If you offer ridiculous contracts to our RFA's we will make you eat that contract.
 
Hack said:
Uggggg. I gotta wake up to this?

Count me in on the "don't match" side if this.

What a terrible contract.


We need to send a message to the league on this. If you offer ridiculous contracts to our RFA's we will make you eat that contract.
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You need to go and vote in the other thread to send a message to the FO.
 
Vermin said:
That's what I am saying. This deal affects us negatively so why should anyone be happy for Hayward if you are a Jazzfan?
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Becuase I am not that irrational. Hayward is a good kid and I don't fault him his success or payday. Good for him. Now the Jazz will match even though they shouldn't.
 
phippsj said:
The Jazz and their perpetual "let the market set the number" are the reason he has this contract. Wed Mayhews, Paul Milsap, etc.

This league overpays for young talent. Jazz gambled and lost.
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What were they supposed to do? The tried to sign Hayward last year and he wouldn't do it. In a case like that you have to wait and see.
 
I've long been a Hayward fan, supporter, and defender. I want him on the Jazz. BUT this strikes me as a fool's contract. As much as I've supported Hayward, I wouldn't match. I'd be sad and disappointed about it, but I wouldn't match.
 
Tobias Harris will be a free agent after next season,would be a great option if we don't match.
 
Stoked said:
What were they supposed to do? The tried to sign Hayward last year and he wouldn't do it. In a case like that you have to wait and see.
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fire corbin and trade big al 2 years ago

a player don't reject a 12mln offer and risks to be injured, unless he's really unhappy with the organization

i'm sorry to say this, but the jazz has to pay their debts one way or the other, that's the rules of life
 
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