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Jazz Trading JLIII, Murphy for Carrick Felix

HighlandHomie said:
yesssss!!!! thank god JL3 and Murphy are gone!!! Felix is an athlete! I love it!
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Best part of this is JLIII is GONE.
Essentially picked up two 2nd round picks and cash. Felix was taken 33rd last season and, in limited action, at least APPEARS to have range (50%/40%). He's also got size. A guard to play behind Burks. Kick the tires, see if he fits. A decent trade. I know, I know...he has another year left on his contract. That $1M guaranteed just might prevent the Jazz from getting Durant. And, Lindsey should be fired...he could have gotten an unprotected first for this salary dump.
 
Avery said:
Add that pick to this existing haul:

2016 second round draft pick from Golden State
Golden State's 2016 2nd round pick to Utah [Denver-Golden State-Utah, 7/10/2013]
2016 second round draft pick from Boston/Toronto
Utah will receive the more favorable of Boston's 2016 2nd round pick and Toronto's 2016 2nd round pick (via Memphis) and Memphis will receive the less favorable of these two picks [Memphis-Toronto, 7/9/2009 and then Boston-Memphis-Oklahoma City, 1/7/2014 and then Memphis-Utah, 6/26/2014]; this pick conveyance is the same as the one described in "2016 second round draft pick from Toronto" on Utah Credits
2017 first round draft pick from Golden State
Golden State's 2017 1st round pick to Utah [Denver-Golden State-Utah, 7/10/2013]
2017 second round draft pick from Golden State
Golden State's 2017 2nd round pick to Utah [Denver-Golden State-Utah, 7/10/2013]
2017 second round draft pick from New York
New York's 2017 2nd round pick to Utah (via Toronto) [New York-Toronto, 7/10/2013 and then Toronto-Utah, 7/10/2014]
2018 second round draft pick from Denver
Denver's 2018 2nd round pick to Utah [Denver-Golden State-Utah, 7/10/2013]
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We're essentially Philadelphia without the redshirt program.
 
Doublea said:
They could always use the 1 million to buy out felix's contract.
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Good point. Have to carry 13 players, though. From what we've read, Felix could be a "3 and D" player. The good news is that if he works out, the Jazz have him cheap for 4 years. If he doesn't, Utah can cut him after 2 (or trade his expiring). It's really a very good contract to have.
 
Core4 said:
Good point. Have to carry 13 players, though. From what we've read, Felix could be a "3 and D" player. The good news is that if he works out, the Jazz have him cheap for 4 years. If he doesn't, Utah can cut him after 2 (or trade his expiring). It's really a very good contract to have.
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Yup I'm sure they'll have him to camp and everything, but there's always the option to buy him out. They could always send him to the d league too.
 
I think it is ironic we now have 5 players on the team that are very close to the same size.

Exum 6'6" with an 8'7" standing reach.
Burks 6'6" with an 8'7.5" standing reach.
Hayward 6'8" with an 8'7" standing reach.
Felix 6'6.25" with an 8'7.5" standing reach.
Hood 6'8.5 with an 8'7" standing reach.

All between 195-215 lbs.
 
Qman said:
I think it is ironic we now have 5 players on the team that are very close to the same size.

Exum 6'6" with an 8'7" standing reach.
Burks 6'6" with an 8'7.5" standing reach.
Hayward 6'8" with an 8'7" standing reach.
Felix 6'6.25" with an 8'7.5" standing reach.
Hood 6'8.5 with an 8'7" standing reach.

All between 195-215 lbs.
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Interesting.. wonder if this has anything to do with DL's 'position-less basketball' mantra he's been harping on about over the past month or so.
 
Exum 6'6" with an 8'7" standing reach.
Burks 6'6" with an 8'7.5" standing reach.
Hayward 6'8" with an 8'7" standing reach.
Felix 6'6.25" with an 8'7.5" standing reach.
Hood 6'8.5 with an 8'7" standing reach.

All between 195-215 lbs.
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And they all look a like...weird.
 
Qman said:
I think it is ironic we now have 5 players on the team that are very close to the same size.

Exum 6'6" with an 8'7" standing reach.
Burks 6'6" with an 8'7.5" standing reach.
Hayward 6'8" with an 8'7" standing reach.
Felix 6'6.25" with an 8'7.5" standing reach.
Hood 6'8.5 with an 8'7" standing reach.

All between 195-215 lbs.
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Hayward is around 225 lbs btw
 
How did DL do this? This guy is a MAGICIAN!!!

I wrote a draft article about Felix last season and wrote the following about drafting him using our second round pick:

"This is the guy I want Utah to draft! I love Felix’s game. To begin, he’s a defensive stopper. That alone makes him intriguing, especially since he can play both shooting guard and small forward. Also, Carrick has dramatically improved his three-point shooting (37 percent his senior year). I’m going to say it — this guy could be a Bruce Bowen-like player. I’m not exaggerating. Of course, there are setbacks to this comparison, as well: Felix isn’t a complete shooter, as one would expect a shooting guard to be, and yes, I’m aware Bowen played small forward. Also, like Bowen, his free-throw shooting isn’t the best (66 percent his senior year — the lowest percentage during his college career), but I genuinely feel he’s worth the pick based solely for his defensive prowess."
 
Qman said:
I think it is ironic we now have 5 players on the team that are very close to the same size.

Exum 6'6" with an 8'7" standing reach.
Burks 6'6" with an 8'7.5" standing reach.
Hayward 6'8" with an 8'7" standing reach.
Felix 6'6.25" with an 8'7.5" standing reach.
Hood 6'8.5 with an 8'7" standing reach.

All between 195-215 lbs.
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Good call. I really wish one or two of those guys had more elite length for a sf.
 
stitches said:
We should have pushed for first round pick, instead of second and $1M. Having in mind that Cleveland need this trade much more than we do, and it helps them get where they want to be in order to be able to trade for Love. Plus a team with Love, Lebron and Kyrie would probably give us one of the last 3 picks in the draft, so it's not like even a first rounder is too much.
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A first rounder is "too much" for the Cavs to give up because the Cavs could have dumped salary with another team without giving up a first round pick. Need to think about counterparty alternatives. Jazz were smart to capitalize and get assets.
 
silesian said:
A first rounder is "too much" for the Cavs to give up because the Cavs could have dumped salary with another team without giving up a first round pick. Need to think about counterparty alternatives. Jazz were smart to capitalize and get assets.
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Besides the fact the Jazz may have actually WANTED Felix. AS kabenac pointed out, he was a pretty good prospect coming out of college. His draft profile states he was usually put on the opposing team's best wing. Even stated he sometimes defended the 5 (but obviously that won't happen in the NBA). I imagine he can probably guard three positions. He could very well develop into a very effective "3 and D" player. Cleveland had a plethora of wings last season (Bennett, Waiters, Gee, CJ, etc.), and Felix broke his kneecap, so he didn't get much playing time (I think 7 pro games and 9 in the D-League - something like that).

No, this isn't a ground-breaking trade. But IF Felix proves he can be an effective backup, it gives the Jazz flexibility. After watching Hood play in the SL, I think he and Hayward may eventually be the starters. SO maybe Burks gets a big contract the Jazz decide not to match. Who knows? What is important is to just have a bunch of players in the pipeline for trades, in case of injuries, etc.
 
I'm really excited about this trade because it means the Jazz don't have a single player currently on the roster that I don't want to see play.

Usually there are a handful of guys on the roster that I never want to see on the court, but not anymore. There is something to look forward to, and be excited about from every single player on the roster.

I can't wait for this season.
 
LjJazzman said:
I'm really excited about this trade because it means the Jazz don't have a single player currently on the roster that I don't want to see play.

Usually there are a handful of guys on the roster that I never want to see on the court, but not anymore. There is something to look forward to, and be excited about from every single player on the roster.

I can't wait for this season.
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Hadn't thought of it that way, but yes, so far all 12 guys could contribute in one form or another.

My guess is the Jazz pick up a 3rd PG. Bledsoe is still available.
JK, maybe they don't "redshirt" Neto another year. It will probably be a veteran, though. I know Clark was playing a bit at that point during SL. Guess he could be back.
And Motum probably makes the team as Exum's translator.
 
Core4 said:
Hadn't thought of it that way, but yes, so far all 12 guys could contribute in one form or another.

My guess is the Jazz pick up a 3rd PG. Bledsoe is still available.
JK, maybe they don't "redshirt" Neto another year. It will probably be a veteran, though. I know Clark was playing a bit at that point during SL. Guess he could be back.
And Motum probably makes the team as Exum's translator.
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My thought wasn't necessarily that they can all contribute, they can, but I was more referring to I find all of them are entertaining to watch.
 
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