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Hood, despite his rookie struggles, is going to be a younger version of Korver. That stroke doe!
Trey Burke. What more do you need?
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Hood, despite his rookie struggles, is going to be a younger version of Korver. That stroke doe!
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Stats are overrated. To me, while his shooting has been subpar, he seems much more confident, gets to the rim far more than he did last year, and is holding his own on defense -- has gone head-to-head with Reggie Jackson, Eric Bledsoe, and Chris Paul, a very challenging assignment. His foul shooting also is off, I think in part because he has more responsibility this year and is still learning his role. I see improvement not decline.
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Doesn't he play for okc?
Burke has gone against beverly, jameer nelson, bledsoe, and cp3 though. Still very tough matchups
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Hate to break this to you but the jazz just committed 40+million to burks. He won't be hanging around the bench anytime soon.
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Exactly. The investment, whether via the draft, free agency or in a trade, will be to bring in another PF. Don't know much about the draft class and who might be there in the 8-10 range (where I think Utah will land). Not sure if possible, but the Jazz should try to extend Booker's deal. Might be like Boozer's situation in Cleveland, though. Jazz would have to make him a FA in order to give him a better deal. As for Burke, I think he sticks around the whole season, but wouldn't be at all surprised to see the Jazz go after a veteran PG this summer to play behind Dante and look to trade Trey.
Part of the problem is that most people overrated him coming out of college, so with high expectations comes major disappointment when he doesn't live up to his college performance. I wasn't that high on him so my disappointment isn't that great. However, I haven't given up on him yet but it sure would help the cause if he could make a few more shots.
Another part of the criticism, is that many in Jazz nation just love to have a whipping boy. It may take Trey a few years to get out of it. Some hate on Kanter more, last year it was Hayward, when Alec got in the league people were upset with him and wished we had taken some one else. In the end a few of these guys are not going to be with the Jazz but until they leave I will limit my criticism to rational/reasonable level.
Another part of the criticism, is that many in Jazz nation just love to have a whipping boy. It may take Trey a few years to get out of it. Some hate on Kanter more, last year it was Hayward, when Alec got in the league people were upset with him and wished we had taken some one else. In the end a few of these guys are not going to be with the Jazz but until they leave I will limit my criticism to rational/reasonable level.
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Matthews can guard 1-3. Sign me up. I forgot that "poison pill" contract was nearly up. Time flies.
We're short a perimeter player.... or at least that seems apparent to me... We'll add one, and there will be competition for minutes, starting jobs, etc. Burks has to get better. (I think he will).
Questions for teh Burke is worthless crowd: do you view Burke as a Brandon Knight? Better? Worse?
What's the point in trading someone who can play the role just fine? (I'm assuming it's to run an empty guard lineup but some seem set on dumping him without this goal in mind)
What's the point in trading someone who can play the role just fine? (I'm assuming it's to run an empty guard lineup but some seem set on dumping him without this goal in mind)
He was the ninth pick in a very poor draft class. I think we were happy to squeeze a nickel out a tightwad's *** more than anything.
I understand your case (it was included). Asking those without a brain.
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I don't think that Trey fits into Quin's offense. Trey is used to dominating the ball, and shooting when he has no other options. When we drafted Trey, I had visions of him being a strong pick 'n roll pg with Favors and Kanter. I rarely see that and the ball sticks with him way too much. He just isn't a great shooter to be taking as many shots as he does. The Jazz are leaning heavily on him because Exum isn't ready, I think it's time for DL to pull the trigger and move Trey and bring in a PG that is a ball mover and can defend.
Problem is he is not explosive enough to blow by guys and get layups (i.e., Chris Paul), and he isn't physically long or big enough to finish over guys (MCW, Dwill), so he HAS TO take those jump shots.
Problem is he isn't a great shooter like you said. Isiah who is even smaller, is playing well because he is hitting shots.
Isaiah Thomas also a number of effective shots around the rim. Thomas is also explosive and gets some separation.
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I agree he needs to be in a system that allows him to dominate the ball in order for him to maximize his skillset. He's a smart player and will likely adjust, but Snyder system as of now isn't the best fit for what Burke does best. I expected a lot more PNR.
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1st Paul isn't that explosive. I don't know why people put him in that group he doesn't belong.
Next I'll hold off on Burke as a shooter still too early to tell. But I think everybody will agree based on his physical abilities/limitations he has to be able to hit his jumper in order to be effective.