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Trey Burke is my new whipping boy

Hantlers said:
I am overly appalled at this overtly racist thread title.
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I don't think it means what you think it means...

A whipping boy was a young boy who was assigned to a young prince and was punished when the prince misbehaved or fell behind in his schooling. Whipping boys were established in the English court during the monarchies of the 15th century and 16th centuries. They were created because of the idea of the divine right of kings, which stated that kings were appointed by God, and implied that no one but the king was worthy of punishing the king’s son. Since the king was rarely around to punish his son when necessary, tutors to the young prince found it extremely difficult to enforce rules or learning.
Whipping boys were generally of high status, and were educated with the prince from birth. Because the prince and whipping boy grew up together they usually formed a strong emotional bond, especially since the prince usually did not have playmates as other children would have had. The strong bond that developed between a prince and his whipping boy dramatically increased the effectiveness of using a whipping boy as a form of punishment for a prince. The idea of the whipping boys was that seeing a friend being whipped or beaten for something that he had done wrong would be likely to ensure that the prince would not make the same mistake again.
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From mw dictionary...
whipping boy noun
: someone or something that often is blamed for problems caused by other people
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: a boy formerly educated with a prince and punished in his stead
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: scapegoat 2
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Or am I missing something?
 
mellow said:
I don't think it means what you think it means...

A whipping boy was a young boy who was assigned to a young prince and was punished when the prince misbehaved or fell behind in his schooling. Whipping boys were established in the English court during the monarchies of the 15th century and 16th centuries. They were created because of the idea of the divine right of kings, which stated that kings were appointed by God, and implied that no one but the king was worthy of punishing the king’s son. Since the king was rarely around to punish his son when necessary, tutors to the young prince found it extremely difficult to enforce rules or learning.


From mw dictionary...
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Just let me try to be One_Brow for 5 minutes, ok?
 
Kyoto said:
I called him the new CJ Miles a month ago and almost got chastised for it. Welcome to the club
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Ha! I said he was a wasted draft pick the minute that it happened and I got negged for it quite a bit.


I welcome everyone to the anti-Burke bandwagon. What a wasted draft pick.
 
Sexual Favors said:
@Orangello, I also received my fair of negs for my concerns with Trey (always backed by stats), and for my positive assertions about Kanter. Seems like the board has slowly been coming around to my way of thinking, yet I don't have the positive reps to show for it.
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Let me start changing that for you.
 
orangello said:
Ha! I said he was a wasted draft pick the minute that it happened and I got negged for it quite a bit.


I welcome everyone to the anti-Burke bandwagon. What a wasted draft pick.
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I don't watch a ton of college basketball, so I admit I hadn't seen much of Trey before the draft. I was hopeful DL knew what he was doing, but during summer league I immediately noticed he was too short and slow to get to the basket (against SCRUBS!) and his shooting was awful. Someone bumped a thread in which I had Giannis/Gobert as my picks. So I feel justified as having Trey as my whipping boy for two seasons. Got my share of negs as well.

I'm not advocating installing Dante as the starter right now. What I think we need is a veteran guard to come in and start for another year, split time with Dante, then move to backup as Exum proves he's ready to start.
 
Stifle Tower said:
I don't watch a ton of college basketball, so I admit I hadn't seen much of Trey before the draft. I was hopeful DL knew what he was doing, but during summer league I immediately noticed he was too short and slow to get to the basket (against SCRUBS!) and his shooting was awful. Someone bumped a thread in which I had Giannis/Gobert as my picks. So I feel justified as having Trey as my whipping boy for two seasons. Got my share of negs as well.

I'm not advocating installing Dante as the starter right now. What I think we need is a veteran guard to come in and start for another year, split time with Dante, then move to backup as Exum proves he's ready to start.
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What would getting rid of Burke for a vet PG accomplish?
 
Siro said:
What would getting rid of Burke for a vet PG accomplish?
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The rest of the starters get a lot better on both offense and defense. Hard for Quin to know what tweaks he has to make to his systems when he has such a liability right at the top of it all. Also a mentor for Dante. What can Burke teach Exum? Well, Trey shoots FT's really well. Dante is very, very raw. I just don't see him starting for another couple of seasons.

I don't see a trade happening until this summer, though. DL will want to look at where we're at after the draft and perhaps assess what FA's might be available.
 
Hey, on a similar note, I think one of the reasons our defense is rated so low is because our guards don't rebound well, leading to extra high-percentage 2nd-chance points for opponents. It also doesn't help that our bigs have to go running around to cover for our perimeter defenders. But if this is going to happen, then the guards have to make an effort to rebound.

Two years ago, a sports publication did a good analysis of what was wrong with the Jazz's defense that year. They basically concluded that the problem was Randy Foye because he didn't rebound. Every line-up that had Randy Foye in it was a net negative on the defensive end.

True story.
 
Catchall said:
Hey, on a similar note, I think one of the reasons our defense is rated so low is because our guards don't rebound well, leading to extra high-percentage 2nd-chance points for opponents. It also doesn't help that our bigs have to go running around to cover for our perimeter defenders. But if this is going to happen, then the guards have to make an effort to rebound.
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Didn't you know we're running the Ranadive offense? Guards are supposed to be down court waiting for a long pass and easy score!
 
dalamon said:
Glad we've moved on from Kwame Kanter to Kwame Burke.


Burke should bring his percentages up to 41/33 by the end of the season-- my prediction.
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The Exorcism continues.


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Stifle Tower said:
The rest of the starters get a lot better on both offense and defense. Hard for Quin to know what tweaks he has to make to his systems when he has such a liability right at the top of it all. Also a mentor for Dante. What can Burke teach Exum? Well, Trey shoots FT's really well. Dante is very, very raw. I just don't see him starting for another couple of seasons.

I don't see a trade happening until this summer, though. DL will want to look at where we're at after the draft and perhaps assess what FA's might be available.
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Welp, that prediction was a little off. And how about Burke? Not that I would have disagreed with Sir Stifle at the time.
 
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