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Following potential 2015 draftees

PKM said:
Brandon Knight's numbers are looking good as well.. and trending the right way. 45%fg, 40% from 3, 90% from the line. 5+ assists per game and 2/1 TO.

Jrue Holiday.. possibility?
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I'd rather go after a young wing on a cheap contract and then use the cap savings to persuade Goran Dragic to sign as an UFA. I like the idea of a starting lineup of Gobert, Favors, Hayward, Burks (or the new wing) and Dragic and then adding another big to replace Kanter, Booker, Hood, Burks (or the new wing), Exum, Neto and Jingles off the bench. I don't think that there's a single PG on the trade market that's worth jacking up our cap flexibility moving forward, and I think that Utah can make they case that a starting group of Gobert, Favors, Hayward, Burks, Hood and another solid wing is one of the most exciting lineups for a starting PG to consider signing with. Especially if the Jazz are willing to pay a competitive price to get him.

And don't give up on Exum in year one. They need someone to pass the torch to after contracts expire and age catches up with them. Exum has star potential. A good team sees that out as far as possible.
 
I have this sick feeling the jazz are going to draft porzingis. don't get me wrong I like him but I see the future of favors and Gobert on the front line. Hayward on the wing and hopefully exum at guard spot. the biggest glaring weakness is a 3 and d on the wing, so so Hayward can guard the easier player.

Johnson is the perfect fit for this team.
 
PKM said:
I feel like I am one of the few that hasn't given up Exum.. I am not even remotely close to that, actually.
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I've been extremely critical of Exum lately, but I am nowhere near giving up on him. I want to see how he plays next year. There are some really worrying signs right now, but I am willing to wait it out and see how he progresses and what kind of jump he makes after a summer of work on his body and handle. PGs with his size and quickness and skill don't grow on trees. He has all the physical tools to be a great PG, the question is if he can figure it out mentally...

My frustration with him is so great because I see the potential, not because I don't see anything. I feel like right now, if he tried he can have a WOW moment every single game, but instead he settles to just ... being there.
 
Crocodile Dante said:
I have this sick feeling the jazz are going to draft porzingis. don't get me wrong I like him but I see the future of favors and Gobert on the front line. Hayward on the wing and hopefully exum at guard spot. the biggest glaring weakness is a 3 and d on the wing, so so Hayward can guard the easier player.

Johnson is the perfect fit for this team.
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Never draft "fit" unless your in the mid to late first round. Porzingis' upside is a player that can shoot over anyone and also swats 2-3 shots a game. A player like that would never be available to Utah outside the draft. SFs are pretty plentiful, the Jazz could go and sign Luol Deng next year who brings most of what Johnson is going to give you.
 
Jazz4ever said:
Never draft "fit" unless your in the mid to late first round. Porzingis' upside is a player that can shoot over anyone and also swats 2-3 shots a game. A player like that would never be available to Utah outside the draft. SFs are pretty plentiful, the Jazz could go and sign Luol Deng next year who brings most of what Johnson is going to give you.
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I actually really, really like that idea of Deng. He's only 29 still, foreign (Spurs model), can pass the ball well (ditto), and could bring some leadership we still lack. He also probably wouldn't be that expensive but we're in a situation now where we could overpay for him without it hurting us. Four years, 44M or something perhaps.
 
QuinSnydersHair said:
I actually really, really like that idea of Deng. He's only 29 still, foreign (Spurs model), can pass the ball well (ditto), and could bring some leadership we still lack. He also probably wouldn't be that expensive but we're in a situation now where we could overpay for him without it hurting us. Four years, 44M or something perhaps.
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The danger in Deng is his high mileage. Lots of playoff games and lots of 40+ minutes games under Thibedeu.
 
Crocodile Dante said:
I have this sick feeling the jazz are going to draft porzingis. don't get me wrong I like him but I see the future of favors and Gobert on the front line. Hayward on the wing and hopefully exum at guard spot. the biggest glaring weakness is a 3 and d on the wing, so so Hayward can guard the easier player.

Johnson is the perfect fit for this team.
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I agree Johnson would be a great selection. But he might not be around when Utah picks. Jazz are in 7th right now, but only a game out of 10th. Johnson could go as high as 4th. Hard to see the draft order not being NY, Philly and Minnesota (in some order), followed by Boston (in full tank mode) and LA (going to shut down Kobe). I think the next group of teams (Utah, Orlando, Detroit, Indiana and Charlotte) are a toss-up from 6-10.

Jazz go with BPA. Why does Porzingis mess with the future of Favors and Gobert? Jazz need three good bigs. They also need 3 good wings. If Porzingis is a decent stretch-4 he replaces Booker in 1 more year as Trevor's contract expires. Yes, it would nice to have another quality wing, too. Whoever that is pushes Hood or Ingles down in the rotation. Jazz could even take a center so Favors can play all his minutes at the 4. Imagine WCS coming in behind Gobert!

I just want the Jazz to get BPA. If that player is good enough to take somebody else's spot, then that makes us a better team. If an asset is used in a trade, that potentially makes us a better team. About the only player I'd consider "untouchable" is Gobert. Favors, Burke and Hayward have all mentioned how great it is to have him on the court. He makes everyone better. He's akready showing he can be an elite defensive force, and his offensive abilities are growing. But everyone else in tradeable. Even Favors or Hayward if they give any indication they'll go elsewhere once they become free agents.
 
The more I watch Russell the more i feel like we won't be in a position to draft him :(
 
Stifle Tower said:
I agree Johnson would be a great selection. But he might not be around when Utah picks. Jazz are in 7th right now, but only a game out of 10th. Johnson could go as high as 4th. Hard to see the draft order not being NY, Philly and Minnesota (in some order), followed by Boston (in full tank mode) and LA (going to shut down Kobe). I think the next group of teams (Utah, Orlando, Detroit, Indiana and Charlotte) are a toss-up from 6-10.

Jazz go with BPA. Why does Porzingis mess with the future of Favors and Gobert? Jazz need three good bigs. They also need 3 good wings. If Porzingis is a decent stretch-4 he replaces Booker in 1 more year as Trevor's contract expires. Yes, it would nice to have another quality wing, too. Whoever that is pushes Hood or Ingles down in the rotation. Jazz could even take a center so Favors can play all his minutes at the 4. Imagine WCS coming in behind Gobert!

I just want the Jazz to get BPA. If that player is good enough to take somebody else's spot, then that makes us a better team. If an asset is used in a trade, that potentially makes us a better team. About the only player I'd consider "untouchable" is Gobert. Favors, Burke and Hayward have all mentioned how great it is to have him on the court. He makes everyone better. He's akready showing he can be an elite defensive force, and his offensive abilities are growing. But everyone else in tradeable. Even Favors or Hayward if they give any indication they'll go elsewhere once they become free agents.
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I think Detroit definitely ends up with a better record than us. And is Paul George coming back at all this year?
 
Stifle Tower said:
I agree Johnson would be a great selection. But he might not be around when Utah picks. Jazz are in 7th right now, but only a game out of 10th. Johnson could go as high as 4th. Hard to see the draft order not being NY, Philly and Minnesota (in some order), followed by Boston (in full tank mode) and LA (going to shut down Kobe). I think the next group of teams (Utah, Orlando, Detroit, Indiana and Charlotte) are a toss-up from 6-10.

Jazz go with BPA. Why does Porzingis mess with the future of Favors and Gobert? Jazz need three good bigs. They also need 3 good wings. If Porzingis is a decent stretch-4 he replaces Booker in 1 more year as Trevor's contract expires. Yes, it would nice to have another quality wing, too. Whoever that is pushes Hood or Ingles down in the rotation. Jazz could even take a center so Favors can play all his minutes at the 4. Imagine WCS coming in behind Gobert!

I just want the Jazz to get BPA. If that player is good enough to take somebody else's spot, then that makes us a better team. If an asset is used in a trade, that potentially makes us a better team. About the only player I'd consider "untouchable" is Gobert. Favors, Burke and Hayward have all mentioned how great it is to have him on the court. He makes everyone better. He's already showing he can be an elite defensive force, and his offensive abilities are growing. But everyone else in tradeable. Even Favors or Hayward if they give any indication they'll go elsewhere once they become free agents.
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So basically we draft Porz to replace Kanter in our three man big rotation and improve nowhere else? I hate it.
 
On Thursday Johnson had 22 points, 8 rebounds, 3 assists.

I'm hoping for either Johnson or Russell right now.
 
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