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I can only hope.

I wonder who the Jazz would draft if we got the #1 pick, Okafor or Russell? Those 2 seem like the only #1 options at this point. No way anyone takes Mudiay or Towns at #1. Mudiay hasn't proven enough and Towns is a huge project.

You draft Okafor and there's zero hesitation. Gobert starts and Okafor plays 20 mins/per as a rookie. Then you let the trade offers come in - someone would throw a big package together to get either one.

As for the draft, I'm still secretly hoping the Jazz get WCS. Play Gobert 30 mins and WCS 18. That would be quite the rotation at the 5! Gives Utah a legitimate 2-man rotation at every position.
 
You draft Okafor and there's zero hesitation. Gobert starts and Okafor plays 20 mins/per as a rookie. Then you let the trade offers come in - someone would throw a big package together to get either one.

As for the draft, I'm still secretly hoping the Jazz get WCS. Play Gobert 30 mins and WCS 18. That would be quite the rotation at the 5! Gives Utah a legitimate 2-man rotation at every position.

Obviously WCS isn't the ideal choice (meaning, you wouldn't take him #1, for example), but I love how he can guard all 5 positions.. srsly. He is an elite defensive player that doesn't come around often.
 
Obviously WCS isn't the ideal choice (meaning, you wouldn't take him #1, for example), but I love how he can guard all 5 positions.. srsly. He is an elite defensive player that doesn't come around often.

The only reason I'd be down with drafting WCS is this. ^^^

It's the only time I can think of that the Jazz would have 2 elite defenders since I've been a fan. I don't know that he'll ever be an proficient offensive player (still have hope for Gobert though) but the idea of being able to put a defensive lineup of Gobert, Favors, WCS, Hayward and Exum out on the court when you simply have to get a stop is intriguing.

There's no sustainable offense there, but damn.

As far as Russell, I still think he ends up 3rd behind Okafor and Towns. Bigs (even project ones) simply rate higher than guards. Wiggins is a rare talent and Embiid would have gone 1st if he'd been healthy.
 
Obviously WCS isn't the ideal choice (meaning, you wouldn't take him #1, for example), but I love how he can guard all 5 positions.. srsly. He is an elite defensive player that doesn't come around often.

Right. I'm not talking about the lottery spots. I'm assuming the Jazz don't get a top-3 pick. But I doubt WCS is around when the Jazz pick. Utah is only 2 games out of the #12 position. Of the non-playoff teams, they obviously won't catch OKC or New Orleans. But everyone else - except Detroit - has been in free fall mode. I think the Jazz will finish with a better record than all the EC lottery teams AND catch Sacramento and Denver.

So who do we draft in the #10-#12 range? Does that bring guys like Lyles and Looney in to play?
 
Right. I'm not talking about the lottery spots. I'm assuming the Jazz don't get a top-3 pick. But I doubt WCS is around when the Jazz pick. Utah is only 2 games out of the #12 position. Of the non-playoff teams, they obviously won't catch OKC or New Orleans. But everyone else - except Detroit - has been in free fall mode. I think the Jazz will finish with a better record than all the EC lottery teams AND catch Sacramento and Denver. So who do we draft at #12?

I would probably trade it. Either for a future first, non-protected, with a crappy team, or trade back and include a nice piece.

If I had to pick at 12, I would give a strong look at Booker... and even Kaminsky when playing alongside Gobert. Gobert gives us a LOT of luxury when deciding our line ups.
 
Obviously WCS isn't the ideal choice (meaning, you wouldn't take him #1, for example), but I love how he can guard all 5 positions.. srsly. He is an elite defensive player that doesn't come around often.

LOL. Okay. Jason, is there a way we can bookmark amazing posts like this for five years from now?
 
Obviously WCS isn't the ideal choice (meaning, you wouldn't take him #1, for example), but I love how he can guard all 5 positions.. srsly. He is an elite defensive player that doesn't come around often.

I think WCS is going be a much better pro then he was as a college player. Kid can guard like you say and can go catch lobs. I totally see him *** a Tyson chandler type.
 
Yeah, because I want Tyson Chandler guarding my point guards.
Where did anyone suggest WCS was going to play PG?

I don't even have him starting. We need a backup center. Favors and Kanter are both better at the 4. Can either play the 5? Yes, they have. But I think recent games have shown the Jazz are clearly better with Gobert as the 5 and either of those guys at the 4. We've seen the impact of having an elite rim protector when Gobert plays. Imagine having that for 48 minutes!

Starters:
PG: Exum
SG: Burks
SF: Hayward
PF: Favors
C: Gobert

Then Utah brings in
PG: Burke
SG: Ingles
SF: Hood
PF: Kanter
C: WCS

I'm not advocating WCS over Okafor, Russell, Johnson, etc. But if he's there in the 10-12 range, I think he will be undervalued and might be BPA. Gobert gets the majority of PT at the 5, then WCS comes in for 15-20 mins. And there are ALWAYS injuries.If WCS is as good a defender as PKM states, imagine how he'd defend on switches!

There's also the luxury of keeping Booker and continuing to shop Kanter for a top wing (e.g. Kanter + the GS 2017 pick). That pushes Burks to a 6th man role, where he would thrive.
 
Unfortunately you may be right. Like Jazzfanz, DX also seems to be gravitating toward Russell and Johnson. They're now #4 & 5 on its mock draft. We're at #7 in draft position. We're in the middle of a big, easily changeable scrum. Within four games on either side of us are teams from current draft position 4-14 (well, actualy 4-13; nine of the teams are in the East and one would make the playoffs as of today).



I have the same feeling about Booker's shot as I have about Klay's or Curry's... I always feel like it's going in.



71% from 3 in last 9 games .. 50.5% on the season.. and he is not just a shooter.

Hood who? Booker is going to be our new Kyle Korver. Add him to the starting line up and suddenly the Jazz are contending in two years.

I'd still like Russell or Johnson but if they are off the board then go get Booker. It won't be a reach.
 
Dang it…you guys beat me to it. Oh well, here goes my long-winded (as usual) post.

If we're picking where we're slotted to be at, or maybe even a little earlier, and the players are who they are right now (they won't be), the guy I'm taking if Johnson and Russell are off the board is Booker. Hell, maybe even if Russell is on the board, I'd consider it. If it wasn't for the Harrison brothers being bitchy if they get benched, Booker would be starting (don't be surprised to see him starting come tournament time). He's better than they are, by a lot.

Now we have to realize he's not getting asked to do a lot, but you can tell he can. He can drive, I saw a play in the Texas A&M game where his defender respected his drive game enough that as he was in triple threat he threatened to drive, his defender bit and he stepped back and nailed a deep three. That's impressive, because everybody thinks he's just a shooter. His defense can look a little lackadaisical at times, but he has the skills and potential to be a plus defender…as of now, he's just average, but he's a freshman on a team with a loaded front court, he can adjust (Klay Thompson certainly did). As has been mentioned, he has a very high bball IQ. I don't think we need to go over it again.

On a team full of players who lack a lot of offensive skills, he stands out. Even though he could (and sometimes should be), he's not much of a ball-stopper. He just makes the right play. I figure if he was on a team like Ohio State, Indiana or something else where he was one of the only offensive options, he would be putting up some damn good numbers. Unfortunately he's not, so it's almost kind of like gambling on a European player…we don't know what he could be doing, we can just project. He's not as good of a passer/creator as Russell, but he's certainly a better shooter, and I would argue he has better athleticism and defensive tools. Russell will most likely (and probably should) go earlier though. I'm all aboard on the Booker to Utah train. His ceiling is most definitely Klay, and even if (and he probably won't) he doesn't reach that, he'll still be a good player. I would easily take him over Porz, WCS, Oubre, Turner and maybe even Mudiay (but probably not).
I have love for you Hants. Keep up the good work.
 
Dang it…you guys beat me to it. Oh well, here goes my long-winded (as usual) post.

If we're picking where we're slotted to be at, or maybe even a little earlier, and the players are who they are right now (they won't be), the guy I'm taking if Johnson and Russell are off the board is Booker. Hell, maybe even if Russell is on the board, I'd consider it. If it wasn't for the Harrison brothers being bitchy if they get benched, Booker would be starting (don't be surprised to see him starting come tournament time). He's better than they are, by a lot.

Now we have to realize he's not getting asked to do a lot, but you can tell he can. He can drive, I saw a play in the Texas A&M game where his defender respected his drive game enough that as he was in triple threat he threatened to drive, his defender bit and he stepped back and nailed a deep three. That's impressive, because everybody thinks he's just a shooter. His defense can look a little lackadaisical at times, but he has the skills and potential to be a plus defender…as of now, he's just average, but he's a freshman on a team with a loaded front court, he can adjust (Klay Thompson certainly did). As has been mentioned, he has a very high bball IQ. I don't think we need to go over it again.

On a team full of players who lack a lot of offensive skills, he stands out. Even though he could (and sometimes should be), he's not much of a ball-stopper. He just makes the right play. I figure if he was on a team like Ohio State, Indiana or something else where he was one of the only offensive options, he would be putting up some damn good numbers. Unfortunately he's not, so it's almost kind of like gambling on a European player…we don't know what he could be doing, we can just project. He's not as good of a passer/creator as Russell, but he's certainly a better shooter, and I would argue he has better athleticism and defensive tools. Russell will most likely (and probably should) go earlier though. I'm all aboard on the Booker to Utah train. His ceiling is most definitely Klay, and even if (and he probably won't) he doesn't reach that, he'll still be a good player. I would easily take him over Porz, WCS, Oubre, Turner and maybe even Mudiay (but probably not).
I keep rereading this and I seem to like it more every time.
 
Booker is being hidden a bit in UKs deep line-ups, but I also think he's getting open looks by being the 3rd option when he's on the floor. If he's a wing in the NBA and he's being guarded by guys like Ariza, Leonard, Butler, etc., I think he'll be forced to try to make difficult, contested looks. He can make some of those shots, but they're not high percentage. Also, both Klay and Steph Curry are guys who can shoot off the bounce and on the move even when their feet aren't set. Can Booker really do that? D'Angelo Russell can, and I think Hezonja and Oubre can too.

Um, I think you'll find that with Hayward (all around game) and Exum (speed and court vision) that a shooter will find plenty of open looks.

Most teams don't have multiple shut down defenders so I'm confident that Quin's offense will find the open man.
 
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