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With the #6 - #14 range, isn't that the range where we "shoot for the stars" so to speak? Swing for the fence and grab someone who could potentially be GREAT like Klay Thompson, Kawhi Leonard, Paul George?

Of course you hope for a superstar with every pick but that doesn't mean much.
We swung for the fences with the exum pick and kanter pick. Took the safer route with the Hayward pick.

Hayward appears > exum or kanter

I'd take JJ w/ the 8th pick. Last time I checked he has been a starter on good playoff teams.

This.
I would take a jj reddick caliber player at 8 too
 
Physically, Booker is more comparable to Thompson than to Redick. Redick amazingly enough had a wingspan smaller than his height. You don't see too many guards stay in the NBA with measurables like that. Thompson had a slightly larger wingspan, but still only about 2" greater than his height.

Booker is fairly stocky for his size and age, while Thompson is more sinewy. Have to remember Booker is still pretty dang young, it's not expected for him to be a great physical speciman yet, nor does his game style require him to be.

He's a great shooter. Appears to really struggle creating his own shot. Does ok on defense. Can't get around screens very well, needs to get stronger. Occasionally gets lost on defense, but he's a freshman, that's expected.

As for whether I would want a player like JJ where we're picking...yes, you swing for the stars, but if you get a guy that can average ~14-15 ppg, shoot the ball extremely well, move the ball around, play smart, effective defense...then you're going to be just fine as a team. Guys like Oubre, Porz, etc might have more potential, but they are also a lot more likely to be out of the league in 5 years.

In fact, lets look at who got drafted before Redick: Bargnani, LMA, Adam Morrison, Tyrus Thomas, Shelden Williams, Brandon Roy, Randy Foye, Rudy Gay, Patrick O'Bryant, Mouhame Sene.

Maybe Orlando should have taken the younger, more athletic, better defending higher potential player in Ronnie Brewer? Or Thabo Sefaloshalsoh?

Every player is going to be a gamble, except for your elite players like LeBron/Durant.
 
With the #6 - #14 range, isn't that the range where we "shoot for the stars" so to speak? Swing for the fence and grab someone who could potentially be GREAT like Klay Thompson, Kawhi Leonard, Paul George?

Klay Thompson wasn't somebody people thought could be great when they drafted him. Neither was Leonard. Neither was Hayward. Again, every player is a gamble, some work out, some don't.
 
Dunno, I'd rather swing for the fence and go with Looney or Winslow.

Looney, who doesn't have a real position in the NBA? I know you think everybody can play the 3, but they can't. Winslow has pretty much no offensive game at this point. He can handle the ball decently well, but he can't shoot. Good up-tempo player, but when playing in a half court setting you basically don't have to guard him. Great defender. I don't see why you think Booker is that much different that Thompson from when they played in college. They basically did the same things as freshman.
 
What about Caris LaVert? He seems like an intriguing prospect to me. Pretty well-rounded, which seems to fit in with what Snyder likes. Struggled being the leading man at Michigan though, so he's definitely not the type to be a #1. You also have to wonder if Michigan is inflating guys stats with how Burke and Stauskas played there. With that said, Beilein has obviously found a way to maximize these guys, our coaches should find a way as well.
 
Pretty much the only worry with Booker for me is his length. I'd like to see how he measures on the combine, because Kentucky's measurement was kind of short, but it also measured Towns shorter than he's been measured before. If he measures at 6'8'' I'd comfortably pick him borderline top 10. Maybe even a bit earlier if you want to take a chance on a superb shooter.
 
What about Caris LaVert? He seems like an intriguing prospect to me. Pretty well-rounded, which seems to fit in with what Snyder likes. Struggled being the leading man at Michigan though, so he's definitely not the type to be a #1. You also have to wonder if Michigan is inflating guys stats with how Burke and Stauskas played there. With that said, Beilein has obviously found a way to maximize these guys, our coaches should find a way as well.

His injury might make him return for one more year. He is pretty wiry and skinny. He looked great to me in the beginning of the season. But I agree, I don't see him as a star in the NBA...
 
Pretty much the only worry with Booker for me is his length. I'd like to see how he measures on the combine, because Kentucky's measurement was kind of short, but it also measured Towns shorter than he's been measured before. If he measures at 6'8'' I'd comfortably pick him borderline top 10. Maybe even a bit earlier if you want to take a chance on a superb shooter.

People get way too caught up in height and length. It's nice, but it doesn't make or break a player. I still remember some posters clowning on Hayward for just having a 6'8 wingspan.
 
People get way too caught up in skin color. I still remember some posters clowning on Hayward for being white

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Its weird, ive always thought of Burks as more of a homerun pick than Kawhi. A lot people on this board were saying Burks was the next Wade. Who knows, he might be, but Id take kawhi at this point.

Im just a big fan of shooting and length. I think with Booker you get shooting. With Oubre you get elite length a la Leonard and Draymond Green.
 
People get way too caught up in height and length. It's nice, but it doesn't make or break a player. I still remember some posters clowning on Hayward for just having a 6'8 wingspan.

6'8'' is not horrible... it's probably about average for a wing in the league. 6'6'' is kind of short though. Of course it doesn't predetermine his success, but it's much easier to be a good defender with several extra inches of length. Without it, he'd have to have great timing, anticipation and defensive instincts. I am not sure yet about those...

In O, I think his athleticism is more important for his in-paint game(and he seems to have above average athleticism) and his quick and high release(has both) are important for his jump shooting, so I am not really worried for his offensive game.
 
Its weird, ive always thought of Burks as more of a homerun pick than Kawhi. A lot people on this board were saying Burks was the next Wade. Who knows, he might be, but Id take kawhi at this point.

Im just a big fan of shooting and length. I think with Booker you get shooting. With Oubre you get elite length a la Leonard and Draymond Green.

Oubre is nothing like Leonard or Green. What makes Green as good as he is are his smarts. He's a smart player, knows his limitations. Same with Leonard, he seems like a pretty basketball smart player. I don't know enough about Oubre to say that he's that kind of player.
 
6'8'' is not horrible... it's probably about average for a wing in the league. 6'6'' is kind of short though. Of course it doesn't predetermine his success, but it's much easier to be a good defender with several extra inches of length. Without it, he'd have to have great timing, anticipation and defensive instincts. I am not sure yet about those...

In O, I think his athleticism is more important for his in-paint game(and he seems to have above average athleticism) and his quick and high release(has both) are important for his jump shooting, so I am not really worried for his offensive game.

I would guess 6'6 is about average for most SG's in the NBA. I think the average height is about 6'4 for SG's and most NBA players (especially wings) are around 2-3 inches longer in wingspan than height.

Length is something that helps you be a good defender, but it doesn't make or break your defensive abilities. Jimmy Butler is one of the better defenders in the league, at 2 or 3, and only has a 6'7 wingspan.

Alec Burks freaking blows on defense and he has a 6'10 wingspan.

*Most importantly* I don't see anything in Booker's athletic or physical measurements that hold him back from being whatever player he can be. It's not like we are dealing with a 6'1 SG.
 
Oubre is nothing like Leonard or Green. What makes Green as good as he is are his smarts. He's a smart player, knows his limitations. Same with Leonard, he seems like a pretty basketball smart player. I don't know enough about Oubre to say that he's that kind of player.
Well how can you say hes nothing like Leonard or Green if you havent seen enough of him?!!
 
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