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Snyder looks like a great choice as coach
Re-signing Hayward, Favors and Burks
Hood pick is solid
Exum is a project but not a bad pick
Expanding the analytical side of the FO
Expanding the scouting done by Utah

DL has been good not great. But he must deliver this summer in free agency. Time to make solid trades and free agent signings.

To me DLs biggest failing have been:

Letting Carroll go
Not trading Kanter sooner

Just admit that you prefer the perma-rebuild and lottery-fulminating over watching real winning basketball.
 
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That jazz team had 4 allstars (albeit in the span of 5 years) in their starting lineup. Please... take off the homer goggles. A 2006-2009 Boozer would compliment Gobert much much better than favors does.

Well, you can look right for the time being. But the fact is, that team couldn't get very far in the playoffs. They were only a team that could win one round. The one trip to the WCF's was lucky because Dallas got upset the first round.

This team will go further. That's my prediction. I think it's actually really well built and in the future will contend. And its primarily because Rudy and Favors are real defensive players down in the post.
 
Gobert > Okur
Favors > Boozer
Hayward > Andre Kirelinko
Burks < Mathews
Exum/Burke < Deron Williams


This team is better built to win a championship than the previous team. Give it time. It's coming together.

You think the current squad is better than a team that made the WCF? Mmmkay...

Here's another one that just prefers dreaming about longshot prospects and high draft picking.
 
I forgot Kanter will be battling McGary for minutes too. He's been ballin since they brought him up. Adams is out at least a month. It will be interesting to see how this works out.
 
Really? His 2pt%, 3pt%, and FT% are all somehow down this season, from last year's already dismal numbers. His Ast/min are also down. DL spent TWO first rounders on that guy. Exum has been even worse. By the beginning of next season Hood and Burks will have both missed a substantial number of games due to being hurt.

Seriously though, since reality isn't working try to think of some imaginary scenario where you could possible conceive of DL being a not-so-good GM. Is it even possible?

Good points, but Exum will become a great player.
 
Gobert > Okur
Favors > Boozer
Hayward > Andre Kirelinko
Burks < Mathews
Exum/Burke < Deron Williams


This team is better built to win a championship than the previous team. Give it time. It's coming together.

Scouts and writers around the league are still really, really high on Exum and have him pegged as a perennial All Star, if not a superstar. Pelton and Ford think he is likely the number two player in the draft behind Wiggins. Next year will be telling, as will the year after. I'm predicting he's going to take a major, major step forward in that time frame.
 
To add to Stoked's post:

Would it have been a bad decision if Kanter was traded sooner, but actually had potential to blow up?

The added analytics in the front office is to find players from the D league, draft and other places that can fill any sort of role on this team in the future. Ingles was a good find, Millsap was as well. They are solid rotation players that underscore the value of having a solid analytics department.
 
Just admit that you prefer the perma-rebuild and lottery-fulminating over watching real winning basketball.

For what? Saying some good and bad things that the Jazz GM has done?

If that is the wild leaps in logic you want to use than fine.

Just admit that you have an agenda of tearing the down Jazz FO, coach and players, are not a fan and are simply here to troll.

I have loudly and openly said that next year must be about Ws and pushing for the playoffs. That DL needs to land some coveted free agents instead of guys like Novaka nd Dleaguers. That it is time to start pushing this team in stead of wondering what lottery pick we will get in 2016.

Get real and stop talking out your butt.
 
The compensation we received for kanter blows. I dont see how a very late first round pick a second round pick and two d league guys equals kanter's value. To me that is equivalent of letting him walk at the end of the year for cap space. None of the assets we acquired will ever turn into a starting nba player. I really hate this trade. The only silver lining is gobert gets more game time.
 
Huh? They were semi conference fodder and were gifted that one trip to the WCF. If you know basketball, you know that team was hard capped because of zero interior defense. Fool's gold.
DL is building the team right, and already has the most important piece, an elite rim protector.

https://nyloncalculus.com/stats/rim-protection/
And you're wrong here - the most important piece to winning a championship is a superstar. Who was the vaunted rim protector for the heat when they won two years in a row?
 
The compensation we received for kanter blows. I dont see how a very late first round pick a second round pick and two d league guys equals kanter's value. To me that is equivalent of letting him walk at the end of the year for cap space. None of the assets we acquired will ever turn into a starting nba player. I really hate this trade. The only silver lining is gobert gets more game time.

He was going to walk at the end of the year due to us not matching him or he was going to take the qualifying offer and then leave anyway.

So yes, if you think that a D League project, a low first round pick, a second round pick, and a promising European project is equal to nothing, you're right. You're a total ****ing moron, but you're right.
 
The compensation we received for kanter blows. I dont see how a very late first round pick a second round pick and two d league guys equals kanter's value. To me that is equivalent of letting him walk at the end of the year for cap space. None of the assets we acquired will ever turn into a starting nba player. I really hate this trade. The only silver lining is gobert gets more game time.

Well, Obviously he had NO VALUE! We got whatever we could. Disappointed, but the reality. The only thing DL could have done differently was try and move him last year.
 
And you're wrong here - the most important piece to winning a championship is a superstar. Who was the vaunted rim protector for the heat when they won two years in a row?

I'd agree that having that superstar is more important then an elite rim protector.
 
Really? His 2pt%, 3pt%, and FT% are all somehow down this season, from last year's already dismal numbers. His Ast/min are also down. DL spent TWO first rounders on that guy. Exum has been even worse. By the beginning of next season Hood and Burks will have both missed a substantial number of games due to being injury-prone.

Seriously though, since reality isn't working try to think of some imaginary scenario where you could possible conceive of DL being a not-so-good GM. Is it even possible?

Burke was picked ninth in that draft, are there more than nine players who will be in the league a few years from now? Burke will be a decent backup.

Since reality is not working for you, why don't you imagine a scenario where the Jazz are playing .500 basketball with some promising prospects who have room to improve? How about a point differential that is steadily improving, and a team that is headed in the right direction?

How is a person supposed to plan for injury? It's not like Burks and Hood were chronically injured players.

Also, I fully admit that Exum has been bad. But we are not judging him on his stats this year. The guy clearly has potential. He is quick and smart, and has elite size for a point guard. If you would like to pass burke off as a bust, do that for everyone in that draft except for Giannis, Gobert and Schroeder, but at least give exum a little more time before calling him a bust.
 
Well, Obviously he had NO VALUE! We got whatever we could. Disappointed, but the reality. The only thing DL could have done differently was try and move him last year.

I agree here, but I would add that last year, he still had some perceived potential, and that is probably why Lindsay did not move him.
 
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