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Clearly people on the Jazz site values Hayward far more than I do. Which I guess should be expected. But looking at their respective NBA accomplishments I have no idea how the case could be made that Hayward is on Lowry level's as a player yet beyond it. The only argument IMO is the age factor...

The Raptors are in the ECF mostly due to Lowry and Val. And before people try to take away from that accomplishment every team they beat are better than the Jazz. Also part of this haul is due to Hayward so for the Raptors to get that haul it's a combination of Lowry, Val, and Hayward.

The upgrade at PG between Lowry and Mack/Exum/Neto is far more than the downgrade of Hayward to Crowder.

The upgrade at PG between Lowry and Mack/Exum/Neto is far more than the downgrade of Hayward to Crowder.

Yeah my mistake when I looked into his contact I got the years misaligned. He is 30.

I think like most trades there will be some give and take. I could definitely see the Jazz wanting to keep Lyles. I think with all purpose trades the key is to focus on the main pieces. As I'm sure there's plenty of back and forward on the details before trades are final.

Lowry is actually 28.

The idea of trading Hayward has been floating around the board centered around the Celtics and their number 3 pick. What if the deal that's there to be made involves not only the Celtics, but also the Raptors? What about something like this Jazz trade- G. Hayward, T. Lyles, and 12th pick...

Who heard LeBron talk about leaving Cleveland or Miami, who heard Chris Paul talk about leaving New Orleans until he demanded a trade. Guys aren't going to complain because their reps will take a hit. That doesn't mean guys don't have their agents talking to the GM's telling them the players...

The problem is Hayward doesn't need help he is the help. Any team trying to build around Hayward is asking to be mediocre at best. He's just good enough to make you consider whether or not he's good enough to build on. He's that level below the "that guy" he's at best Robin really he's best as a...

Did you follow the team in preseason? Burke was killing it(as he did the previous pre season ) so how was the benching of him justify to start the season if indeed it was solely just Burke's play? Burks and Burke was one of the best scoring bench duo until Burks went down. Burke was a high...

Trey was given a raw deal this season. He was stellar as the starter in preseason yet was forced to come off the bench for Neto who was playing poorly to began the season. He was playing great even off the bench when he had help with Burks. Burks went down and he was asked to do to much and his...

With the lack of production from Neto and Mack why not start Burke? Why was the best solution to bench Neto, stop playing Burke and start Mack after a couple of games? If you give Shelvin a chance to start why not Trey? What do you have to lose? Trey has had way more "good" games than Shelving...

I don't get some of you. Burke hasn't played a game in like 2 weeks. Yet has 4 assist and 1 turnover in 11mins and playing really good defense. And people are complaining because his shot is off.

Really not sure why people insist on painting Burke as a malcontent?

Really not sure why people insist on painting Burke as a malcontent?

Sorry you are very far gone if you think Neto has been better than Burke. Trey still has a ton of holes in his game to pick at.

As a Pelicans fan this is how I feel about Davis. A lot of talent but he's being gifted a ton of unearned hype and respect.

I agree 100%. Teams that aren't big FA hotspots need to take advantage of the benefits of rookie contracts.

To say that the idea to sell on Hayward right now is a sign of weakness is a narrow way to view this situation. Any smart person has to access all factors. When your team has this much of it's core due significant pay raises and isn't even a lock for a playoff spot it's a tough decision.