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  1. Quin's Murderface

    One of the most embarrassing performances..

    After the recent string of games where the offense was great this seems like a post that lacks some objectivity to me. It's pretty simple. That Jazz offense generally creates a ton of open 3's or layups if they run it correctly. Over the last month or so the team has been running it well and...
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    The Official Go Get Kawhi Thread

    Obviously you ask about him. Maybe DL's relationship with them would somehow make a difference. But the thing is that if he wants to be in a bigger market or whatever the Jazz will not be a choice for him. There is a lot of mystery about what the actual problems are. From a basketball...
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    Official "Rubio hip injury watch" thread

    It's hard when Mitchell struggles against it. I'm guessing they'll just run more PnR with Ingles. I wouldn't mind them running some kind of double pick action like they sometimes do, but they'd need to practice what to do to counter a double team like that. Or maybe they just help Donovan to...
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    Derrick Favors' family has moved to Atlanta.

    I wouldn't say that he'll be lazy, but it's fair to question whether or not he'll be healthy and also whether or not he'll be worth a larger deal.
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    Derrick Favors' family has moved to Atlanta.

    I think if we lose Rudy and Donovan isn't a top 10 player by then we will be in big trouble. Without Rudy we are probably a bottom 5-7 team. Obviously you could replace him with another star player and change how the team plays, but man Losing Rudy would be a disaster much bigger than Hayward.
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    What does Dante get in Free Agency?

    I agree. I thought this article was more interesting just to see how invested Dante is with the team and Donovan still. That's a good sign as to where his head is at. I remember Locke or somebody else mentioning how much more invested he seemed as opposed to Rodney who was in the middle of...
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    What does Dante get in Free Agency?

    Nah it's just that he has a lot of potential, and despite the injuries is still very young. Just sit back and trust the franchise (who are all professionals and know the game and his situation much more than you). If they believe in him maybe you should re-evaluate your perception, you know?
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    Donovan Mitchell All Star Weekend Thread

    I gotta agree with Cy and the others with similar opinions. I wouldn't say this was a bad dunk contest, but it was kind of nondescript. Mitchell was the most consistently good which is why he won. While his dunks weren't incredibly innovative he does have a really flashy style when dunking them...
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    What does Dante get in Free Agency?

    I'm not on some weird mission to show I can see the future. Get over yourself lol. You have no clue what is going to happen in the future. Based on what we know now Exum definitely has untapped potential, and will likely get a decent deal. NBA players generally get deals that line up more with...
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    What does Dante get in Free Agency?

    Yeah. This is the missing piece here. Exum was shooting 50% from 3 in preseason though on not many attempts. He may very well be a decent 3 point shooter when all is said and done. The injuries suck, but all that matters is what the Jazz think about his potential. I'm comfortable going with...
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    What does Dante get in Free Agency?

    Basic economics. The league makes a ton more money and so the players get more money. They've collectively bargained to make sure lesser players get more money, and that team control is exchanged for these kinds of deals.
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    What does Dante get in Free Agency?

    This is just frankly an illiterate take on how the NBA works. Nothing more to say.
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    What does Dante get in Free Agency?

    I think the Jazz could structure a 4/40 deal so that Exum is only making about 8 million his 4th season. If they could make that 4th year a team option in exchange for going the full 40 that would be fair. He'd make 11.8, 10.6, 9.3 and then 8.1 his last year. At 4/35 he'd be down to about 7 his...
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    What does Dante get in Free Agency?

    We have very little. The Jazz have more since they see him all the time. There definitely are lots of offers that would be considered lowballing. All that matters is what Dante thinks is lowballing to be honest. Your opinions about his level have no impact on any of this. This is not a...
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    What does Dante get in Free Agency?

    Obviously. That's the whole idea of this process. To some degree or another you almost always have to project future value in these RFA deals. Dante has had a weird set of circumstances that make it more difficult to project than some. He might be terrible or he might be very good. It's a tough...
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    What does Dante get in Free Agency?

    Again lowballing is based on projections. You aren't paying for him for being a 5 PPG player. You are paying believing that he will be worth more. This happens all the time with RFA deals. Sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesn't.
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    What does Dante get in Free Agency?

    Because he'll just not accept a low offer and play for the QO. Again this is all determined on how they feel about him as a player. You personally might think he isn't worth it or can go kick rocks, but the Jazz seem to feel that he is worth signing/developing at this point. So it's a balancing...
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    What does Dante get in Free Agency?

    I'd love 4/30. I just don't think that is realistic. I think 4/40 would be a realistic middle ground where both sides are risking some money. But maybe the Jazz aren't that high on him. I'm just going off what they say and what Tony Jones has reported. As to whether it is a good deal or not we...
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    2019 Offseason & Free Agents

    Ah good info, thanks. Like I said those numbers seem promising but I can't remember a draft pick that looked as outmatched as he did which is why I'm thoroughly meh on his prospects. Maybe the jump in competition was too much or he needed more time to get used to professional basketball. I have...
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    What does Dante get in Free Agency?

    4/48 would seem like alot in the current market. The second contract is often paid more on projection so I think fans should be ready for a bit of an "overpay" if the Jazz want to retain control for the 4th year. Like I said I think it all depends on what they really think of him and what he's...
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