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  1. JAZZFAN_2814

    Stockton's assists record unbreakable. Steals nearly so.

    Is that Bono? So far as hating the "new", that's actually pretty inverse to my argument against ESPN: there's nothing new about these 40-somethings that construct articles as if they were writing team media guides. This "era" of ESPN's NBA coverage is frankly old, particularly when watching...
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    This franchise doesn't want to win a title

    All those times you were busy avoiding (missing? Unrequited) reading comprehension. And trying to get Darwin out of the classroom. So far as a parallel (well, in your case, inverted) argument of evolution, the Nets are an interesting guideline. Just the overall understanding of roster...
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    This franchise doesn't want to win a title

    Well, that's convenient. Just as a base argument and viewpoint. The Spurs, yes, are champions. But as to whether that proves Duncan and Robinson were superior to Malone and Stockton...well, I think the extrapolated logic dictates that you then believe that the former beat a 69-win Bulls team...
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    Stojakovic anyone?

    It's 2002? If so, yeah, I can see Stojakovich getting minutes over Cheney. That's the great thing about the Jazz: past as present, not only in advertising and aesthetic, but roster makeup. Time to start signing more guys that are 5 years past their sell-by.
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    This franchise doesn't want to win a title

    The Lakers won two titles off of the corrupt Gasol trade, itself initiated as much by the league office as Buss or his acolytes. Same thing with the Celtics and KG. The interesting subheader is how endogomous both trades were: Jerry West and McHale as sleepercells. Traitors being paid by another...
  6. JAZZFAN_2814

    Stockton's assists record unbreakable. Steals nearly so.

    There's likelihood. Then there's zero-sum. Biggest problem I have with Hollinger is one oft-stated -- that is, stats versus on-court analysis, either through tape or from the sidelines -- and, more specifically, it applies to something like Stockon's records very simply: inability or...
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    Boozer thinks Rose better than D-Will

    Rose as a truly great PG is either suspect or subjective. Prima facie, he reminds me of a prime Steve Francis, himself a poor man's Isiah Thomas, that is benefiting from the current rules in manner separate but equal to a name like Nash. His facilitation ability -- the Stockton Standard of...
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    How can we win when we're playing 3 on 5?

    Resorting to cliche, but hustle is a massive issue. There's something microcosmic, predicative and pathetically typical about, for instance, what I saw out of Kirilenko tonight: on one hand great hustle on a night celebrating him and his fellow countrymen(?)/culture, yet even within that...
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    NBA.com: Hot and Cold. The inconstitant Jazz.

    That team was great at closing games. But that stat doesn't refer to closing halves -- in the context of in-game quarters -- instead it refers to the best second half win/loss record in NBA history. I don't see the relevance in relation to this team's up/down or down/up play by quarter...
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    Wow, Gordan Hayward!

    Hayward has the skillsets -- is close enough to the prototype -- as a shooter and secondary creator that the Jazz have been missing since Hornacek retired. Hornacek's intangibles were off the charts, but I continue to think that management made a very good pick relative to system and a look...
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    AK 47's inability to finish at the rim

    Mittelschmerz imo
  12. JAZZFAN_2814

    AK 47's inability to finish at the rim

    17 million for a piece of schmata. It never occurred to me that he went to the rim. I thought those were in-game ads for Vagisil.
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    What team will Deron Williams leave the Jazz for in free agency?

    What?! A crock, rather. Reality is that Malone and Stockton were at their peaks in the late 80s/early 90s. Where was Hornacek then? Oh. In Philly or Phoenix. Those teams were less talented than what Deron has now. A lot less. Miller didn't provide decent talent until Malone started...
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    What team will Deron Williams leave the Jazz for in free agency?

    Because John Stockton and Karl Malone did. And compared to the wonderful Larry Miller, they were nothing special. Just "gentiles", after all.
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    Where did Paul Millsap go?

    His skillsets, as opposed to some box scores, should have told you that he isn't, and wasn't, a star player. But this reality is rarely if ever acknowledged. Ignorance is bliss, and the rabble of this board will be back to the positive hype whenever Paul has another nice two week run. From a...
  16. JAZZFAN_2814

    Okur May Return On Pre-Christmas Road Trip

    Interesting that Jazz fans feel the need to continuously complain about Boozer, even now that he's no longer on the team, while ignoring the 17 million dollar albatross, Andrei Kirilenko, known for crying jags, disappearing for entire seasons, and bouts of vaginal infection. Might as well be...
  17. JAZZFAN_2814

    12-11-2010, Jazz @ Mavs, 6:30 Utah Time

    Watching the Jazz double Nowitzki on an iso move towards the basket was tragicomic -- and I don't blame Utah, this is simply the nature of the hand-check clearout era.
  18. JAZZFAN_2814

    Malone destroying Robinson's face

    Malone destroying Robinson, period: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bsuLF0DqzU Pretty typical Malone/Robinson matchup in the playoffs. Always owned him.
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    NBA predicaton in Israel: Jazz

    Do mischlings count?
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