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#1 Pick to Utah?

tonstermits said:
If this does go down is there a free agent available to replace Favors with? I like Gobert but I don't think he's close to being ready for that much responsibility.
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Centers are slow n dumb anyways. But I do think we need a serviceable backup in case Gob gets in foul trouble. How about Reggie Evans.
 
themanknownassting said:
It would be a disaster on the defensive side. And those who think Gobert can fill that spot are in for a rude awakening when teams run the high PnR against him.


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Disaster? Our defense was 30th in the league. Sorry, but our rim protector isn't buying us much.
 
Jazz frontcourt:
Favors............defense
Kanter............offense
Gobert............defense
Tomic.............offense

Wish we could trade the offensive players instead of a defensive one. Give 'em both Kanter and Tomic. No? Please?
 
2013 article on Tomic's defense improvement

https://euro-step.net/countdown-to-london-10-ante-tomic/

Ante Tomic’s net Defensive Rating: 10.5

FC Barcelona Regal, best defensive team in the Euroleague throughout the season, finished the 2012-13 campaign giving up with a Defensive Rating of 94.3, which meant that for every 100 possessions Barcelona had to defend, Xavi Pascual’s fine-tuned defensive set-up gave up only 94.3 points to the opposition. While Barcelona are no stranger to the accomplishment that is having the best defense in Europe, one certain name on the roster had been quite unfamiliar to that territory, up until he joined Pascual’s ranks in the summer of 2012. A lanky gem that had remained unwrought for the most of his career, Ante Tomic was always a liability on defense. When he left Real Madrid in the summer, many thought Laso’s side wouldn’t miss him as well as that he would be a definite downgrade on defense over Boni N’Dong and Fran Vazquez. Almost a year later now, those who doubted Tomic’s abilities, including me, are proven wrong and have witnessed the redemption story of one of the finest big men in European basketball, if not in the world.

To say that Tomic has been a key contributor for Barcelona this season would surely be underselling it. Croatian center has been “the” difference maker, the guy upon whom was Pascual’s heightened. Barcelona allowed their opposition a crushing 88.6 points per 100 possessions while Tomic was on the floor —would rank as the best in the league— meanwhile teams managed to score 100.1 points when Tomic is not around.

For a player who was once deemed as soft, Ante Tomic couldn’t have come a longer way. Tomic has not only improved both personally and as a team player, but he also has been part of a harmonious composition. As a post defender, a role in which he had struggled immensely in his Madrid days, he has always had help in Barcelona. In the post, his guards always found him for one-dribble opportunities close to the rim, in which Tomic excels at thanks to that silky touch of his on the finish.

During the season, we often observed that the designed role for Tomic on defense is shutting down the lanes on the help and intervening shots in the paint rather than sticking to his man. Difference between Barcelona and Madrid is that he always have someone who has his back in Pascual’s team when he leaves his man to wander around in the paint and smack down an unprivileged perimeter player.

In 658 minutes on the court for Barcelona this season, Ante Tomic blocked 32 shots as well as intervening many others in ways that don’t reflect on the box score. That is the exact same number of blocked shots Tomic had in his Real Madrid career, with a slight difference: It took the Croatian 900 minutes and 3 years to reach that same amount in the Spanish capital.

On May 10th, Tomic and his Barcelona will take the court against the Croatian’s new and the Catalans’ eternal nemesis, Real Madrid, for a place in the Euroleague Final.

Ante Tomic will be there to settle his account for good.
- See more at: https://euro-step.net/countdown-to-london-10-ante-tomic/#sthash.fVkY59Dl.dpuf
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Ellipse said:
Disaster? Our defense was 30th in the league. Sorry, but our rim protector isn't buying us much.
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Truth. You can't get worse than worst. Favors is great, but he was a much better defender as a 4, for whatever reason. Perin said they view him as a 5 last week for whatever reason. One man can't defend for a team, though. W/O Favors down low, maybe the rest of the team would be forced to take up some defensive responsibility/accountability, instead of just putting it all on our bigs.

If Kanter were to get this deal done, I'd be down for it as well. I love both Kanter and Favors, but I think the Jazz need a Wiggins or Parker, and am willing to part w/ the #5 and a core player for one.
 
Why isn't this rumor showing up anywhere else? Nothing on any of NBA rumor sites like hoopshype, bleacher report, etc. or any of the Cavaliers message boards.
 
akirac73 said:
Why isn't this rumor showing up anywhere else? Nothing on any of NBA rumor sites like hoopshype, bleacher report, etc. or any of the Cavaliers message boards.
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Because even though it makes some sense, it is BS.

I love Favors and think they we would be a bit crazy to move him. I'd do it though for wiggins. The second thing I'd do is trade kanter and whatever other assests it takes to get to 6-8 to grab Gordon or smart. Fill the front line with some scrubs on one year deals and hope we end up with a top 5 next year to add towns or okafor. Totally hate Alexander. Reminds me of Marcus Fizer.

A smart and wiggins backcourt would be very sick!
 
If this is a legit rumor then why is this only on our forum and the Jazz Nation facebook????

How come nobody else has this. Who's twitter account is this that shared it??
RT@Probballdraft: Hearing the Cavs and Jazz have discussed a swap of picks. Jazz would move up to take Parker and Cavs would likely get Favors and 5.
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And is Sheridan Hoops even legit??? Or is he desperate for attention?
 
We're vastly overrating Favors.

When he's engaged, he's a decent defender. He's still not Duncan, Chandler, or hell, even Bogut.

I think we forget that at least half the time favors is asleep. 1/4 the time he's in foul trouble with terrible moving screen or poor defensive play fouls. Maybe 1/4 of the time he's actually engaged and playing smart.

Ultimately, he has tools. But he doesn't have the fire to do anything. I've about given up on him.

Kanter? I think he has the fire. He just doesn't have the tools nor the brain.

Gobert is an interesting prospect. He seemed engaged and a lil nasty. He just lacked experience and lower body strength. If Favors played with half the fire Gobert does, he would be a 20 and 15 guy.
 
bigmike said:
I'd be stunned if we moved up to #1 and took Wiggins over Parker. The whole world knows (or thinks they know) that we're gushing over Jabari.

Though I'd be stunned if we traded Favors, too, so I clearly know nothing.
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The whole world thinks the Jazz are gushing over him because a select few Jazz fans mostly mormon are giving them that perception. No one knows if the Jazz are gushing over any player at this point.
 
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