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BENTLEY said:
What do you say after having watched it?
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Vesely is not on par with Williams or Irving. There's a pretty big drop-off after those two. I think Vesely will be a sold starter though and he has some good tools--length, quickness, instincts around the hoop, mental toughness--but he needs to develop his body a bit more and develop his offensive repertoire.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
I don't know how good he is or if he will be a lotto pick or not but any legit 7ft prospect needs to be discussed. Anyone know anything about him
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He plays in a really low level league currently. He is light-years away from contributing, if he ever will, to a NBA team. If we had a 20ish pick and there was no one on the board I liked, I would pick him up as a mega project.
 
Here is my personal mock draft:

1. Minnesota | Kyrie Irving | 6-2 | 180 | PG | Duke | 19

2. Cleveland | Derrick Williams | 6-9 | 241 | SF/PF | Arizona | 19

3. Toronto | Enes Kanter | 6-11 | 261 | PF/C | Kentucky | 18

4. Washington | Jan Vesely | 6-11 | 230 | SF/PF | Czech Republic | 20

5. Sacramento | Kemba Walker | 6-0 | 172 | PG | UConn | 20

6. Utah | Bismack Biyombo | 6-9 | 243 | PF | Congo | 18

7. Detroit | Brandon Knight | 6-3 | 185 | PG/SG | Kentucky | 19

8. Cleveland | Jimmer Fredette | 6-2 | 195 | PG | BYU | 22

9. Charlotte | Alec Burks | 6-6 | 191 | PG/SG | Colorado | 19

10. Milwaukee | Terrence Jones | 6-8 | 244 | SF | Kentucky | 19

11. Golden St. | Jonas Valanciunas | 6-11 | 240 | C | Lithuania | 18

12. Utah | Klay Thompson | 6-6 | 202 | SG | Washington State | 21

13. Phoenix | Kenneth Faried | 6-8 | 225 | PF | Morehead St. | 21

14. Houston | Donatas Motiejunas | 7-0 | 224 | PF | Lithuania | 20
 
Cousinsfan11 said:
Here is my personal mock draft:

1. Minnesota | Kyrie Irving | 6-2 | 180 | PG | Duke | 19

2. Cleveland | Derrick Williams | 6-9 | 241 | SF/PF | Arizona | 19

3. Toronto | Enes Kanter | 6-11 | 261 | PF/C | Kentucky | 18

4. Washington | Jan Vesely | 6-11 | 230 | SF/PF | Czech Republic | 20

5. Sacramento | Kemba Walker | 6-0 | 172 | PG | UConn | 20

6. Utah | Bismack Biyombo | 6-9 | 243 | PF | Congo | 18

7. Detroit | Brandon Knight | 6-3 | 185 | PG/SG | Kentucky | 19

8. Cleveland | Jimmer Fredette | 6-2 | 195 | PG | BYU | 22

9. Charlotte | Alec Burks | 6-6 | 191 | PG/SG | Colorado | 19

10. Milwaukee | Terrence Jones | 6-8 | 244 | SF | Kentucky | 19

11. Golden St. | Jonas Valanciunas | 6-11 | 240 | C | Lithuania | 18

12. Utah | Klay Thompson | 6-6 | 202 | SG | Washington State | 21

13. Phoenix | Kenneth Faried | 6-8 | 225 | PF | Morehead St. | 21

14. Houston | Donatas Motiejunas | 7-0 | 224 | PF | Lithuania | 20
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You are completely missing Kawhi Leonard.
 
Was watching spurs griz highlights and got to thinking what it would take to get Mayo. I've heard that Memphis would love to get rid of Mayo, so I thought give them are own pick #12 and Cj. That would give them a pick in the draft since they wasted theirs on the Brewer trade. Would Memphis do this would we do this.

Discuss...
 
Thee jazz fan said:
Was watching spurs griz highlights and got to thinking what it would take to get Mayo. I've heard that Memphis would love to get rid of Mayo, so I thought give them are own pick #12 and Cj. That would give them a pick in the draft since they wasted theirs on the Brewer trade. Would Memphis do this would we do this.

Discuss...
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Mayo makes 5.6 next year and then his QO is 7.3. That's why the Grizzlies tried to trade him. He isn't worth that. Mayo is a one year rental at which point any team that has him will relinquish him in order not to pay the 7.3 UNLESS he suddenly becomes worth it.
 
billyshelby said:
Mayo makes 5.6 next year and then his QO is 7.3. That's why the Grizzlies tried to trade him. He isn't worth that. Mayo is a one year rental at which point any team that has him will relinquish him in order not to pay the 7.3 UNLESS he suddenly becomes worth it.
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Your probably right. With that said who is a wing we can trade for using the 12th pick. I don't see us getting that good of a player with that pick.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
Your probably right. With that said who is a wing we can trade for using the 12th pick. I don't see us getting that good of a player with that pick.
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Great question. There is no wing we can trade for with just the 12th pick. But KOC's job is to find out which players might be available with all the assets we have at our disposal. We can put together packages that might entice teams with good players who have decided to take a step back with young talent.
 
Quick question. I assume it was known around NBA circles that the Jazz really liked Devin Harris. Rumors were that Dallas was trying to trade for Harris so they could make a run at Deron this summer and entice Utah with Harris. Now, if Utah really does like Harris that much, why would they take a pg in this draft? Wouldn't that defeat the purpose in obtaining Harris? Now, I know some will say take BPA but in this draft there really is no BPA. Every single player has upside and downsides. Can you really argue Knight is a more sure pick than Bismack or Burks? They all have a lot of talent and a lot of weaknesses.

Now, if Utah really feels this strongly about Harris, what happens if they get the #1 pick? If I am Utah, I look to trade this pick. You are picking between a pg (where you already feel like you are set at, and also, this isn't a Jordan vs Bowie or Durant vs Oden thing. PG's don't win championships) and a six foot seven PF. I say no thank you. If you end up with the #1 or #2 pick, let some other GM dig their own grave. Ideally would be to trade the #1 pick to Cleveland (who apparently loves Irving) for their pick next year. Toss in the GS pick if you have to. Then at twelve take the BPA which would probably be between Leonard, Burks, or other similar wing. That is what I want to have happen if we win the lottery (unless Williams suddenly measures at six foot nine, or has incredible lateral quickness allowing him to play the three. If Williams tests out at either of those things, then screw what I just said and draft the guy).

Screw another pg and screw a more skilled Millsap. After watching the NBA playoffs this year, a pg or a small PF will not take us to the promised land. We need length, athleticism, and wing scoring. Williams and Irving do not give us any of that.

Flame away.
 
green said:
Quick question. I assume it was known around NBA circles that the Jazz really liked Devin Harris. Rumors were that Dallas was trying to trade for Harris so they could make a run at Deron this summer and entice Utah with Harris. Now, if Utah really does like Harris that much, why would they take a pg in this draft? Wouldn't that defeat the purpose in obtaining Harris? Now, I know some will say take BPA but in this draft there really is no BPA. Every single player has upside and downsides. Can you really argue Knight is a more sure pick than Bismack or Burks? They all have a lot of talent and a lot of weaknesses.

Now, if Utah really feels this strongly about Harris, what happens if they get the #1 pick? If I am Utah, I look to trade this pick. You are picking between a pg (where you already feel like you are set at, and also, this isn't a Jordan vs Bowie or Durant vs Oden thing. PG's don't win championships) and a six foot seven PF. I say no thank you. If you end up with the #1 or #2 pick, let some other GM dig their own grave. Ideally would be to trade the #1 pick to Cleveland (who apparently loves Irving) for their pick next year. Toss in the GS pick if you have to. Then at twelve take the BPA which would probably be between Leonard, Burks, or other similar wing. That is what I want to have happen if we win the lottery (unless Williams suddenly measures at six foot nine, or has incredible lateral quickness allowing him to play the three. If Williams tests out at either of those things, then screw what I just said and draft the guy).

Screw another pg and screw a more skilled Millsap. After watching the NBA playoffs this year, a pg or a small PF will not take us to the promised land. We need length, athleticism, and wing scoring. Williams and Irving do not give us any of that.

Flame away.
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I am not going to flame you. I will say that the idea of Irving along Favors and Hayward is very appealing to me. Or even Williams if he can truly play the 3. I am not sure Harris is considered a big part of the future here. He doesn't seem to be the best distributor. Then again, Corbin might change the entire offensive scheme which could suit Harris better. You make a good point on Cleveland wanting Irving badly. I guess we listen to offers and if one is just too good to pass up then we take it.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
Was watching spurs griz highlights and got to thinking what it would take to get Mayo. I've heard that Memphis would love to get rid of Mayo, so I thought give them are own pick #12 and Cj. That would give them a pick in the draft since they wasted theirs on the Brewer trade. Would Memphis do this would we do this.

Discuss...
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I prefer Millsap and 12° pick for M. Gasol (sign and trade).....
But this is very difficult...
 
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