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Jazz4ever said:
Good tidbit from slamonline about Kanter.

Having the chance to watch Enes shoot nearly 200 jumpers throughout the two workouts, we can tell you that this cat has certainly improved his J-work. He was nearly automatic inside of the European three point line, showing his potential to stretch the D as a 4/5 (whether he likes it or not, I’m sure he’s going to play some center). When the big man stepped out beyond the NBA arc, he showed off a smooth release and had solid, but not spectacular results shooting 13/25 and 15/25 respectively. More importantly, Enes made considerable improvement speeding up the release of his shot and cleaning up the loose ends of his form. “We worked on my form a lot because I used to drop my left hand every time and now they yell at me ‘left hand up!’ each time I shoot,” explained Kanter with an infectious smile. “Before, my elbow was out a little bit when I shot. Now it’s not, and I’m shooting the ball much better.”
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Nothing screams future superstar than watching some euro shoot jumpers in an empty gym without any defense.

If gym shooting drills is what determined the value of the player, Jimmer and Kanter would be the top 2 picks.

Guys like Lebron, Dwight Howard, and our very own Favors, would go undrafted against the likes of JJ Redick, Jason Kapono, and Kyle Korver.

I'm more anxious to know about Kanter's athleticism. What about his competitive spirit? Why is he doing only shooting drill and not anything related to defense (which is a concern with nearly every euro)?
 
The Thriller said:
Nothing screams future superstar than watching some euro shoot jumpers in an empty gym without any defense.

If gym shooting drills is what determined the value of the player, Jimmer and Kanter would be the top 2 picks.

Guys like Lebron, Dwight Howard, and our very own Favors, would go undrafted against the likes of JJ Redick, Jason Kapono, and Kyle Korver.

I'm more anxious to know about Kanter's athleticism. What about his competitive spirit? Why is he doing only shooting drill and not anything related to defense (which is a concern with nearly every euro)?
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Seriously? You honestly think that Tim Grover, who worked out Jordan, Hakeem, DWade, and countless other All-Stars would invite Kanter to come to the gym to shoot jumpers all day? You're reading one paragraph from a big column about his training with Grover. I'm officially on the Kanter bandwagon. Have you guys seen the size of his head/face?
 
mellow said:
Draft Express updated thier Mock yesterday. Kemba Walker moves up to #3, the Boards favorite Enes falls to #8.

This draft is all over the place, and although the combine will start putting players in place, the Jazz had better be working overtime to get it right.
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These sites that specialize in mock drafts update them all the night for no particular reason other than to get people to visit the site everyday.
 
margodydek said:
Seriously? You honestly think that Tim Grover, who worked out Jordan, Hakeem, DWade, and countless other All-Stars would invite Kanter to come to the gym to shoot jumpers all day? You're reading one paragraph from a big column about his training with Grover. I'm officially on the Kanter bandwagon. Have you guys seen the size of his head/face?
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Yeah, that Dirkus guy probably did this and we all know he sucks!
 
Revolution 9 said:
If we take Vesely with Bismack and Kanter still on the board I'll lose it...
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Not saying we should take him above Biyambo and Kanter but many think Vesely is the most NBA ready intl player out there, but he is also older and might not have the upside that the other two have.
 
Ben10 said:
Well if it is #1 or #2 the Jazz well take Irving or Williams. #3 is were it gets hard. I think they would look Hard at Kanter at #3 or maybe even reach with Knight. Don't see them taking one of the other Euro's unless its Kanter at 3. And looking at the list of Euros that are sitting out the combine that makes me even more sure of that.
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They are still playing in Europe. They have these pesky contracts that say they must play. The European seasons can go on forever. They have multiple leagues that they play in. I would hope we have some scouts over there checking them out.
 
NCJazz said:
Not saying we should take him above Biyambo and Kanter but many think Vesely is the most NBA ready intl player out there, but he is also older and might not have the upside that the other two have.
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He shoots 50% from the FT line.
 
margodydek said:
Not advocating we take him, but FT shooting is probably the easiest skill to improve (if someone is committed).
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He is 20 years old, if he hasn't improved it by now (especially as a European, I'm pretty sure they put more of an emphasis on those kind of things) then he probably wont improve it that much.
 
Dwill_PwnasaurasRex said:
He is 20 years old, if he hasn't improved it by now (especially as a European, I'm pretty sure they put more of an emphasis on those kind of things) then he probably wont improve it that much.
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I refuse to believe that anybody, let alone a 20 yr old, can't improve their FT shooting, especially if their starting out at 50%.
 
Revolution 9 said:
If we take Vesely with Bismack and Kanter still on the board I'll lose it...
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I'm honestly not that worried. Whether management will ever admit it or not, they're bruised as hell by AK and I don't think a player that highly resembles him will be that enticing to them. Especially since if they want a giant lank that's too weak to play inside and a generally poor shooter, but is probably a better defender and ball-handler than Vesely, they can probably just re-sign Dwarf Paladin Dragon Ballsack Man.
 
And if I wasn't clear enough already, I don't have any interest in Vesely. Not even at 12. Where does he fit in on a championship team? A guy that comes off the bench and then... umm... runs and is really tall AT THE SAME TIME?

I changed my mind. I'm stoked. Let's draft him, he fits in EVERYWHERE EVER.
 
The percentage of Euros who enter the draft and never come to the NBA is awfully high, and this year there are 5 to 7 euro guys projected in the first round. I wouldn't waste my pick.....but if I had two picks.......
 
mellow said:
The percentage of Euros who enter the draft and never come to the NBA is awfully high, and this year there are 5 to 7 euro guys projected in the first round. I wouldn't waste my pick.....but if I had two picks.......
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There are two "Euro"s that aren't under contract and you can guarantee will be in the NBA the second they can. Those two happen to be the only two I give a **** about (Kanter, Biyombo).
 
NUMBERICA said:
And if I wasn't clear enough already, I don't have any interest in Vesely. Not even at 12. Where does he fit in on a championship team? A guy that comes off the bench and then... umm... runs and is really tall AT THE SAME TIME?

I changed my mind. I'm stoked. Let's draft him, he fits in EVERYWHERE EVER.
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Do you really need an NBA skill or ability to defend a position to make it in the NBA? I'm completely confounded by the love this guy gets on this board.
 
GVC said:
Do you really need an NBA skill or ability to defend a position to make it in the NBA? I'm completely confounded by the love this guy gets on this board.
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Hmmm, there appear to be scouts who have watched him play full games many times who are obviously very high on him, but I am sure you know better.
 
NCJazz said:
Hmmm, there appear to be scouts who have watched him play full games many times who are obviously very high on him, but I am sure you know better.
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Scouts beat off to "upside", and that's about all Vesely has. On paper.
 
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