2011 draft.....
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Gyp Rosetti
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Knight's point guard skills and stats do nothing to impress.
Interesting stuff on Kanter and Singelton on Hoopshype today. https://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm
While I initially believed that Kanter's year off would hurt his draft stock, I'm no longer concerned after talking with a number of NBA execs. Virtually every team I spoke with has him as a top-five prospect on their board. A few told me they believe, had he played at Kentucky this year, he may have been the favorite to go No. 1 overall.
He still might have a chance to go No. 1 overall if the Washington Wizards get the No. 1 pick. While we currently have them taking Derrick Williams No. 1 in our Mock Draft Lottery, a well-placed source said Kanter would be in the conversation. The Detroit Pistons and the Golden State Warriors also have needs that could place Kanter in the mix. But after Kyrie Irving and Williams are off the table, I'm not sure there's a player with more upside in this Draft.
If Kanter is the best big man in the draft, Florida State's Chris Singleton is widely regarded as the draft's best perimeter defender. Singleton has a terrific combination of size, length, athleticism and toughness. He can guard three positions on the floor and was a dominant defender in the ACC this year. The question for Singleton has always been: Can he score enough to make him a lottery pick? Singleton averaged just 13 ppg as a junior and shot just 43 percent from the field. Florida State's inept, grind it out offense can be blamed for some of his woes. The last two summers Singleton looked much better at the summer camps than he did for the Seminoles. But some of it is on Singleton. While he's improved in virtually every aspect of his game offensively, he still needs to be more consistent.
While I initially believed that Kanter's year off would hurt his draft stock, I'm no longer concerned after talking with a number of NBA execs. Virtually every team I spoke with has him as a top-five prospect on their board. A few told me they believe, had he played at Kentucky this year, he may have been the favorite to go No. 1 overall.
He still might have a chance to go No. 1 overall if the Washington Wizards get the No. 1 pick. While we currently have them taking Derrick Williams No. 1 in our Mock Draft Lottery, a well-placed source said Kanter would be in the conversation. The Detroit Pistons and the Golden State Warriors also have needs that could place Kanter in the mix. But after Kyrie Irving and Williams are off the table, I'm not sure there's a player with more upside in this Draft.
If Kanter is the best big man in the draft, Florida State's Chris Singleton is widely regarded as the draft's best perimeter defender. Singleton has a terrific combination of size, length, athleticism and toughness. He can guard three positions on the floor and was a dominant defender in the ACC this year. The question for Singleton has always been: Can he score enough to make him a lottery pick? Singleton averaged just 13 ppg as a junior and shot just 43 percent from the field. Florida State's inept, grind it out offense can be blamed for some of his woes. The last two summers Singleton looked much better at the summer camps than he did for the Seminoles. But some of it is on Singleton. While he's improved in virtually every aspect of his game offensively, he still needs to be more consistent.
Gyp Rosetti
Banned
He never said that. But to piggyback off of a point made by a NBA player or coach (I forget which) recently, it is really helpful to have two legit big bodies in the paint.
Anybody heard of Marshon Brooks? Chad Ford talked about him today, and Bleacher Report wrote this article about him. https://bleacherreport.com/articles...-watch-marshon-brooks-workout-with-tim-grover
Here is what Chad Ford said, quoted from Bleacher Report:
Within minutes of walking into the gym, it was clear that Brooks was playing at a completely different level than I'm used to seeing from college prospects. As I moved over to Grover, I began to grill him.
"Who does he remind you of?" Grover grinned. I was afraid to answer. Grover smiled and said, "There's a little bit of Kobe in him, isn't there?" He had read my mind.
Grover has been working on tweaking his shot mechanics and he's shooting the ball much better. But it's Brooks' ability to put the ball on the floor and get buckets that's notable -- even a little Kobe-esque. His lateral quickness, step-backs and aggressiveness were as impressive as anything I've seen this year.
Off the court, Brooks came off as very focused and intense. He's very serious and confident in a way that could be read as cocky. But he has the respect of everyone in the gym and Grover said he's a very hard worker.
(There is more in the insider article as well. Here is one paragraph from the Insider Article: "There are red flags. He's already 22 years old. He didn't really blossom until this year. His team won just four Big East games this year. But in a draft that's devoid of quality 2-guards, I think Brooks would more than hold his own in any workout with Alec Burks and Klay Thompson. We moved him up more than 30 spots on our Big Board to No. 22. With great workouts? I don't think lottery is out of the question. The kid can play.")
Has anybody seen him play? Do you think we should gamble on him at 12, or too big of a risk?
Here is what Chad Ford said, quoted from Bleacher Report:
Within minutes of walking into the gym, it was clear that Brooks was playing at a completely different level than I'm used to seeing from college prospects. As I moved over to Grover, I began to grill him.
"Who does he remind you of?" Grover grinned. I was afraid to answer. Grover smiled and said, "There's a little bit of Kobe in him, isn't there?" He had read my mind.
Grover has been working on tweaking his shot mechanics and he's shooting the ball much better. But it's Brooks' ability to put the ball on the floor and get buckets that's notable -- even a little Kobe-esque. His lateral quickness, step-backs and aggressiveness were as impressive as anything I've seen this year.
Off the court, Brooks came off as very focused and intense. He's very serious and confident in a way that could be read as cocky. But he has the respect of everyone in the gym and Grover said he's a very hard worker.
(There is more in the insider article as well. Here is one paragraph from the Insider Article: "There are red flags. He's already 22 years old. He didn't really blossom until this year. His team won just four Big East games this year. But in a draft that's devoid of quality 2-guards, I think Brooks would more than hold his own in any workout with Alec Burks and Klay Thompson. We moved him up more than 30 spots on our Big Board to No. 22. With great workouts? I don't think lottery is out of the question. The kid can play.")
Has anybody seen him play? Do you think we should gamble on him at 12, or too big of a risk?
BENTLEY
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He will be - I'm counting on it. But the Jazz need more than just Favors at defense.
Morris Almond?
ncoloradojazz
Banned
I just threw up in my mouth. *shudder*
This isn't Morris Almond. He looks more skilled and talented than Burks in this video. I was hip to Paul George last year, but this guy is a natural. I'd take him at 12.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQFhRBB8LQo&feature=related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQFhRBB8LQo&feature=related
BENTLEY
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AAAHHHH!!! Now Golfman injects Marshon Brooks into the conversation. To which I reply: MAYBE!! I don't know!!! There are a million questionable prospects this year and the sheer numbers of seeming equal talent is overwhelming me!
I think we kind of have an idea of the tier to choose from for the 6th pick - maybe a group of 4 or 5 guys. The 12th pick? Maybe 45 guys.
I think we kind of have an idea of the tier to choose from for the 6th pick - maybe a group of 4 or 5 guys. The 12th pick? Maybe 45 guys.
I do too, but it's time for the Jazz to stop taking that out of the Vegas league. Vegas is too close to Utah, and the games are on tv with a real crowd.
It's time to get out of the Orlando Summer League.
Seems like OKC is trying the multiple defensive bigs, but not really any good scoring bigs this year. So we will see how that goes.
Seems like Ford sees a new person each day he thinks should go in the lottery. They cant all go in the lotter Ford!
jrclone
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I really like the look of Marshon, he seems like a legitimate scorer, with more athletic ability than Almond or Fredette. I'm excited to see how he does in workouts.
However, my new dream draft is us picking Biyombo with the 6 and praying that Kawhi Leonard drops to us at the 12. This would give us an unbelievable rebounding front line of Favors, Biyombo and Leonard. Put that with a big 2 in Hayward, and I think you really have a potentially dominant rebounding team, as well as a decent defensive team.
However, my new dream draft is us picking Biyombo with the 6 and praying that Kawhi Leonard drops to us at the 12. This would give us an unbelievable rebounding front line of Favors, Biyombo and Leonard. Put that with a big 2 in Hayward, and I think you really have a potentially dominant rebounding team, as well as a decent defensive team.
Chargers Jazz Angels
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The one thing I want to see out of this draft, more than the player drafted, is the Jazz looking for an identity. The identity I want is a hard nosed defensive team. Biyombo and signleton. If the jazz are looking for a run and gun fun offense then draft montajunas and fredette. I want to start seeing an identity is that to much to ask?
BENTLEY
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What about either Motiejunas and Singleton, or Biyombo and Fredette?
Or does this offensive/defensive combination water down your whole identity thing?
Chargers Jazz Angels
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Not at all my examples were not to be all inclusive to players listed just examples. If the jazz are going to go more balanced then you mix but my point still remains the same THE JAZZ NEED AN IDENTITY. Teams that don't have have an identity ie the clippers are prone to be nothings.
I thought the Vegas League was cancelled this year. Seems like a good year to bring back the Rocky Mtn at least for one year.
https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/2011/04/13/2011-04-13_nba_readies_for_lockout.html