Until someone with medical expertise has examined Biyombo and opposes this Doctor's opinion saying Biyombo is 22 is ignorant.
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Until someone with medical expertise has examined Biyombo and opposes this Doctor's opinion saying Biyombo is 22 is ignorant.
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DX has their video up on Kanter. His defensive effort is laughably bad, extremely Boozer-esque.
Contrary to popular belief I am NOT pimping Kanter. I shared some behind-the-scenes insight and then have refrained from much discussion on the matter. Having said that ...
How does this NOT show an agenda with Givony? How can you take the opposite of a highlight reel and give it anymore credence than a highlight reel. I'm sure, if he wanted to, he could have put together a highlight reel that made Kanter look like a defensive monster.
From what I've seen, I'd call Kanter a slightly below average defender (not bad, just not an 'average' NBA PF/C). However, he does have the tools and desire and I believe he'll easily become average. He's a great scorer and an elite rebounder.
Dude you are a clown. The video has Kanter doing good and bad stuff. He also included an offensive reel that made him look very good at times. You are a clown.
margodydek
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At the end of the day I want KOC to draft a basketball player - this is why I was applauding the Hayward pick from the beginning. Can the guy play basketball? That's my main concern. Biyombo looks like the sexy pick, but I would prefer my team to be able to play 5 v 5 on offense instead of 4 v 5. Can Biyombo improve? Yes. But he's still a project. This is why I've been on the Kanter or Williams/Jimmer or Burks or Thompson bandwagon from the get-go. Have I seen enough of Kanter to say exactly what he'll be in the league? No. But he looks like he should be just fine in the league, and so do the others, and if they improve even a little I think they can be great.
You say Givony has an "agenda" against a player just because he doesn't reguritate what every other draft website says. He is actually going out and doing his own research to formulate an opinion. You can't take that he has found a weakness in the player you obviously have wet dreams about.
I want to thank both PwnasaurasRex and PMK for their opposing views on Kanter. I really liked the new videos of Kanter posted on Draftexpress. In watching the videos I have never seen less defense being played by big guy. That being said, what I found funny was that despite a complete lack of defense by Kanter the other teams big couldn't make a shot. This leads me to believe that Kanter was baiting some of these bigs to shoot. They were terrible. Kanter wanted them to shoot. It was also nice to see an offense video that didn't have him making every shot he put up. Still he seemed to have great range on his jump shot and very good feet.
I believe Kanter is an excellent offensive player who will need to work harder than he ever has on defense. But for my money Kanter is still my selection.
I believe Kanter is an excellent offensive player who will need to work harder than he ever has on defense. But for my money Kanter is still my selection.
Not disputing the fact that he is 18 or 19, but it was NBA scouts at the Hoops Summitt who questioned his age. Would not be the first this has happened. Dikembe for instance.
Yeah, Kanter is clearly 100x the player than any of the opponents he was playing against in Prep School. The lack of any real competition probably had something to do with how lazily he played. It's still alarming though. There are many posters on this board who think he will be able to come into the league and put up numbers. I don't think that is the case.
I am sure many will be happy to know that according to DX the Jazz are in Belgrade today checking out Vesely in the Serbian finals. Could be the last game if Partizan wins. We are also going to see Biyambo in Spain in the next couple of days as well. Wonder if we are going to get a workout with Jonas V.
Archie Moses
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Genius. So do I. Can you imagine the outcry by jazzfanz if he drafted a jouster?
There are times that I'd prefer a jouster to some of our guys. AK and CJ come to mind.
I just want to remind everyone that there were several scouts that said Karl Malone was lazy and had a poor attitude so if DX Givony thinks Kanter is lazy because he watch him in high school, I would have to take it with a grain of salt. Kanter showed up in shape and ready to go. The tough part is determining if the kid loves basketball and wants to be great. For that reason many GM makes mistakes because they pick a guy who talks the talk but really can't get in done on the court or in practice.
Yeah but with Karl you had more film to go off of. Kanter is a pretty rare case because he has close to zero film against real competition, and no film of real competition in a real league.