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2011 draft.....

Been on the Irving bandwagon for over a year. Having said that I would be really stoked if the Jazz got Knight from Kentucky. Kid was a two-time National Gatorade player of the year. Only two other people have done that. Lebron, and another guy that's played in about 82 games over 4 years and is apparently well endowed. Depending on where we end up in the draft, if we stay at 12 with our pick, and Irving is off the board with the NJ pick, I would take BPA (Barnes, Williams, Kanter??) with the NJ pick and then do what I could to take Knight with our pick.

With regards to The Jimmer. I'm as big a fan as any of the kid. Perhaps the greatest Utah collegiate basketball player ever. However, let's be honest, the kid's career will be a back-up point guard in the league. If the Jazz draft him, it will only be so they can sub him in at the end of every quarter when there's 35 seconds, as he is the perfect player to run our "2 for 1" offense where we jack up an ill-advised 3 from 27 ft. If the Jazz do take him (please let it be with our pick), I would have hopes for the next Jason Terry.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
BYU fans are the worst, and the biggest homers I've ever seen!
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Now you're calling BYU fans phat?
I don't think there is a single college that doesn't have a fair number of "Large" fans.
You should get out a little bit more, visit some other colleges.

On a side note I have noticed that BYU does have quite a few of the "biggest haters" I've ever seen!
I'm talking "break a bridge" big.... and that's just their ego.
They are so full of hate they can't see a good thing because it has to do with the school they hate so much.
 
margodydek said:
Been on the Irving bandwagon for over a year. Having said that I would be really stoked if the Jazz got Knight from Kentucky. Kid was a two-time National Gatorade player of the year. Only two other people have done that. Lebron, and another guy that's played in about 82 games over 4 years and is apparently well endowed. Depending on where we end up in the draft, if we stay at 12 with our pick, and Irving is off the board with the NJ pick, I would take BPA (Barnes, Williams, Kanter??) with the NJ pick and then do what I could to take Knight with our pick.

With regards to The Jimmer. I'm as big a fan as any of the kid. Perhaps the greatest Utah collegiate basketball player ever. However, let's be honest, the kid's career will be a back-up point guard in the league. If the Jazz draft him, it will only be so they can sub him in at the end of every quarter when there's 35 seconds, as he is the perfect player to run our "2 for 1" offense where we jack up an ill-advised 3 from 27 ft. If the Jazz do take him (please let it be with our pick), I would have hopes for the next Jason Terry.
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Just wondering how many people said the same about John Stockton? Jimmer already shows flashes of being a good passes and paired with better players I think he will be a very solid distributor.
 
Revolution 9 said:
Exactly. If we are sold on any of the top picks we need to go get them. If KOC believes one of these guys is the real deal he needs
to be aggressive. He did it with Deron, so it's possible. Washington, or Sac will bite...

On the other hand if we ended up with something like Kanter and Walker how could you not be thrilled about that?
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Then trade Millsap for a wing by the trade deadline if Kanter appears to be the real deal.
 
I agree, bpa with nj pick, then night with ours. My opinion is open to change depending on more research ie, this weekend. I am firmly in the camp that d harris isn't the future for the team. He looks for his own too much.
 
Spaniard said:
I agree, bpa with nj pick, then night with ours. My opinion is open to change depending on more research ie, this weekend. I am firmly in the camp that d harris isn't the future for the team. He looks for his own too much.
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Believe he has another 3 years on his contract though. But if we do draft the PG of the future his contract isnt to horrible so hopefully we can trade him.
 
The Thriller said:
Huge difference between a freak accident with a knee cap and an ACL.

The long history of stiff bigmen with bad wheels is almost unbearable. Pass on tissues I mean euros I mean Kanter.

Americans win championships. Euros win competitions that don't matter. The most ring rich euro couldn't even get out of the first round with Kobe bailing his *** out. And even then, Gasol is their 4th most important player. Kobe, Bynum, Odom, and Gasol. Without Bynum, an American, the Lakers would struggle to even get out of the 2nd round.
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Wow. Calling you a trolling xenophobe would be letting you off the hook.

P.S. Bynum didn't play in the 08 playoffs where the Lakers went to the finals playing an oversized PF at C that they integrated mid-season. Bynum was also practically useless in the 09 playoffs because he didn't have toughness or strength under duress like you claim is only a trait of an American.

Manu Ginobili is waving with his rings and gold medal.

Hakeem Olajuwan - who did more with less than anyone I can think of in NBA history - was really American, though. So American, in fact, that I believe he was born in Kansastucky.

Have fun at Stadium of Fire.
 
There are more American players(and superstars), so the amount of American champions is always going to outweigh their European counterparts.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Wow. Calling you a trolling xenophobe would be letting you off the hook.

P.S. Bynum didn't play in the 08 playoffs where the Lakers went to the finals playing an oversized PF at C that they integrated mid-season. Bynum was also practically useless in the 09 playoffs because he didn't have toughness or strength under duress like you claim is only a trait of an American.

Manu Ginobili is waving with his rings and gold medal.

Hakeem Olajuwan - who did more with less than anyone I can think of in NBA history - was really American, though. So American, in fact, that I believe he was born in Kansastucky.

Have fun at Stadium of Fire.
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Swing and a miss.

Dream played 3 years at an American University. This helped prepare him for the NBA.

Tomic is playing in a league of unathletic soft euro butt paper. Which is exactly what I'm talking about. Please, try and stay on subject. If you can't, then please just leave.

Care to try again?
 
The Thriller said:
Swing and a miss.

Dream played 3 years at an American University. This helped prepare him for the NBA.

Tomic is playing in a league of unathletic soft euro butt paper. Which is exactly what I'm talking about. Please, try and stay on subject. If you can't, then please just leave.

Care to try again?
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Numberica doesn't have to. Thriller only cited Hakeem, which Numberica pointed out was "really American." Probably shouldn't have mentioned him to bolster his argument, since he already had Manu.
And Numb coulda citeed the more obvious bigs Dirk and/or Pau.

The draft's a gamble. You can lose big or hit the jackpot, regardless of homeland. You don't want to be too dismissive. Look under every rock.
 
Hakeem is American because he moved here at some point? Makes sense.

Now let's get back to the subject of Turkey being communist and white.
 
The Thriller said:
Swing and a miss.

Dream played 3 years at an American University. This helped prepare him for the NBA.

Tomic is playing in a league of unathletic soft euro butt paper. Which is exactly what I'm talking about. Please, try and stay on subject. If you can't, then please just leave.

Care to try again?
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Labeling all Euro/Turkish players as soft and unathletic is pretty ridiculous. Tomic is quite swift for a guy 7'2".Wish we could have drafted Asik in the 2nd round. he would be a defensive upgrade over all our players.
 
NCJazz said:
You do know they are white though right?
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How do you define "white"? Are Italians, Greeks, or Spaniards white? When I see Kanter, I think he looks Turkish, which is a generally lighter-skinned Arab. Why does it matter anway? If it matters at all, it's a positive since American-born white players are basically irrelevant in the NBA.

And Turkey is communist??? If you were to ask the resident guy that talks out of his ***, every country that's not Amurrca is either a terrorist breeding ground or a bastion of Stalinism. Turkey presents a unique problem in that it's somehow both.

Birth certificate gold standard socialism fascism communism, am I right? Also, death tax.
 
NUMBERICA said:
How do you define "white"? Are Italians, Greeks, or Spaniards white? When I see Kanter, I think he looks Turkish, which is a generally lighter-skinned Arab. Why does it matter anway? If it matters at all, it's a positive since American-born white players are basically irrelevant in the NBA.

And Turkey is communist??? If you were to ask the resident guy that talks out of his ***, every country that's not Amurrca is either a terrorist breeding ground or a bastion of Stalinism. Turkey presents a unique problem in that it's somehow both.

Birth certificate gold standard socialism fascism communism, am I right? Also, death tax.
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Um, you mentioned it in your post. Fortunately, most Turks are quite moderate. Feel kind of bad though i had a Turkish employee at Florida State who was first quite observant of the Koran, by the time the college year was out he was in seedy bars drinking crappy beer. But, yes some seem quite ignorant of the world and most importantly their basketball players. :)
 
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