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2013 Chicago Combine May 15-19

Excerpt from Draft Express (https://www.draftexpress.com/article/Analyzing-the-2013-Combine-Measurements-4181)

-Nerlens Noel's measurements (6'10 without shoes, 7'3.75 wingspan, 206 pounds) are very similar to those of 2012 draftee Keith Benson (6'10 without shoes, 7'4.75, 217 pounds). Finding an apt comparison for Noel is no easy task, as his 206 pound frame (4.2% body fat) is the 4th lightest in our database among players standing at or above 6'10 without shoes on. Compared to his predecessor at Kentucky, Anthony Davis (6'9.25 without shoes, 7'5.5 wingspan, 222 pounds), Noel does not particularly stand out, but doesn't measure up poorly either.

-Ben McLemore (6'3.5 without shoes, 6'7.75 wingspan, 189 pounds) and Victor Oladipo (6'3.25 without shoes, 6'9.25 wingspan, 213 pounds) would appear a tad undersized on height alone, but compensate with impressive wingspans. Oladipo measures out similarly a bit smaller than Dwyane Wade (6'3.75 without shoes, 6'10.75 wingspan, 212 pounds), while McLemore is slightly lighter, but roughly the same size at Bradley Beal (6'3.25 without shows, 6'7.75 wingspan, 202 pounds). While neither player has excellent size for a shooting guard, both have the athleticism to stand out in that portion of the testing.

-Trey Burke measured in just under 6-feet tall at 5'11.75 without shoes but has an impressive 6'5.5 wingspan. He's both heavier and longer than Chris Paul (5'11.75 without shoes, 6'4.25 wingspan, 178 pounds) and has a bigger wingspan than Kyrie Irving (6'1.75 without shoes, 6'4 wingspan, 191 pounds) despite standing 2 inches shorter. Burke's measurements place him in good standing among the NBA's best point guards.

-Otto Porter (6'7.5 without shoes, 7'1.5 wingspan, 198 pounds) ranks among the lightest players his height in our database all-time. His measurements compare well to those of Moe Harkless (6'7.25 without shoes, 7'0 wingspan, 207 pounds), who played well for Orlando as a rookie. If Porter can add some weight to his frame over time, his size and +6 wingspan differential will fit in well among small forwards drafted in the first round. It will be interesting to see how he fares defensively as a rookie against the 240+ pound three men he'll encounter some nights.

-Alex Len did not do all of the testing as he's wearing a walking boot, but his 7'3.5 wingspan ranked as the 6th best measured in Chicago.

-C.J. McCollum (6'2.25 without shoes, 6'6.25 wingspan, 197 pounds) has solid size for a combo guard, measuring lighter, but roughly the same size as Randy Foye (6'2.25 without shoes, 6'6.25 wingspan, 212 pounds). McCollum's ability to handle the ball and make plays for others is a plus, as he doesn't compare favorably to most true shooting guards who have been picked in the lottery in recent years.

-Shabazz Muhammad (6'4.75 without shoes, 6'11 wingspan, 222 pounds) measured roughly as expected. His numbers are not outstanding for a small forward prospect, but not awful either. He's 6'6.25 with shoes on and is roughly the same size as Ruben Patterson (6'5 without shoes, 224 pounds) and Caron Butler (6'5.25 without shoes, 6'11.5 wingspan, 222 pounds) both of whom enjoyed long careers at the three-spot. Like those two, Muhammad strong frame is a plus as he looks to compensate for his lack of great size and length.

Notable Measurements
-Rudy Gobert (7'0.5 without shoes, 7'8.5 wingspan, 9'7 standing reach, 238 pounds) measured in tied for the 3rd biggest wingspan and 2nd biggest standing reach in the history of our database. His size compares favorably to a young JaVale McGee (6'11 without shoes, 7'6 wingspan, 241 pounds). Like McGee, Gobert will need to add some weight to his frame, but his size is truly elite.

-Steven Adams is an enormous individual, measuring in at 6'10.75 without shoes with a 7'4.5 wingspan and 255 pound frame. His hands are among the largest recorded since the NBA began measuring hand width and length regularly as well. Adams's measurements are eerily similar to those of Greg Oden (6'11 without shoes, 7'4.25 wingspan, 257 pounds), which certainly puts just how impressive his physical profile is in perspective.

-Dennis Scrhoeder measured in at 6'1 with a 6'7.75 wingspan and a 165 pound frame. His length is elite for a player his height, but his frame is also among the lightest measured for a 6'1 guard.

-Kelly Olynyk measured in as a legit 7-footer in shoes, but his 6'9.75 wingspan is poor for a center. Considering his skill level, Olynyk is a fairly unique prospect.

-Tim Hardaway measured in at 6'4.5 in shoes with a 6'7 wingspan. He's played well here, but his wingspan is among the smallest for his size in our database.

-Michael Carter-Williams measured 6'4.75 without shoes with a 6'7.25 wingspan, or almost identically to Greivis Vasquez (6'4.75 without shoes, 6'7.25 wingspan). Nate Wolters also measured well for a point guard at 6'3.5 without shoes on, but possesses a middling 6'3.75 wingspan.

From DraftExpress.com https://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz2Ta14KVSO
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Adams is drawing physical comparisons to Greg Oden and Andre Drummond. I don't think he's quite that athletic though. A bit of Combine hype going on.
 
I'm getting suspicious about these verticals. It seems like there's way too many 40+" verticals this year.
 
I can find exactly 1 in game dunk by Larkin on youtube.

He gets up though, looks like he floats for the last few inches.

I'm psyched because I'm about the same size as Shane Larkin. I maxed at about 34 or 35 inches when I was 20. At most, I could dunk a tennis ball.
 
Mike Prada @MikePradaSBN KCP is a way better passer than I expected. Georgia plays a lot of Flex, so something to keep in mind when considering his NBA destination.

Jazzman.
 
How much would it suck if Shabazz fell to Portland and they drafted him? They would be stacked.

That's a very real possibility. It's not that Shabazz sucks, it's that players like Olynyk, Adams, Schroeder and a couple SGs are impressing. I could see Dallas nabbing Shabazz too.

Edit: Actually, both OKC and Dallas would do well to take bigs. Olynyk or Adams to OKC, and Adams, Gobert or Dieng to Dallas.
 
I'm getting suspicious about these verticals. It seems like there's way too many 40+" verticals this year.

Aren't they at a new facility this year, or a remodeled one? Maybe they are jumping off an extra bouncy floor?

I haven't been able to watch today, but my second favorite portion of the event is watching the bigs sprint down the floor as fast as they can then duck to miss hitting their heads on the door frame they have to run through. Awesome!!!
 
Aren't they at a new facility this year, or a remodeled one? Maybe they are jumping off an extra bouncy floor?

I haven't been able to watch today, but my second favorite portion of the event is watching the bigs sprint down the floor as fast as they can then duck to miss hitting their heads on the door frame they have to run through. Awesome!!!

They don't run through the door anymore, they just run into a padded wall.
 
At one local gym I can dunk a tennis ball, I can't at the other gym :(

My theory is the one I can dunk on is correct, and the other is too high though that is probably false.
 
yeah i am not sure what mine is either. but i am only 5 foot 10 and i can dunk a volleyball. on a good day i can dunk a woman size basketball.

Nice. I'm gonna start training and hopefully I can dunk a basketball in a few months.
 
Nice. I'm gonna start training and hopefully I can dunk a basketball in a few months.

while on my mission riding bike really built up my leg strength. it was easyer then. I got back from my mission and got married... i think marriage takes some of your vertical out of ya.. i have to really warm up now before i can dunk it...
 
while on my mission riding bike really built up my leg strength. it was easyer then. I got back from my mission and got married... i think marriage takes some of your vertical out of ya.. i have to really warm up now before i can dunk it...

Actually bike riding hurts your vertical if you are doing it long distances. Same with long distance running. Any kind of long distance cardio lessens your explosiveness.
 
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