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Are you pretending not to understand this bro?

It is all about building a resume. A conference championship game is one huge box that Ohio St can check off on their resume that TCU and Baylor cant. Like, its just a literal fact.

If TCU and Baylor are the only 1 loss teams left, yeah, take one of them. Since Ohio St has 1 loss, and has something on their resume that TCU and Baylor cant, its really a no brainer.

This is really really simple bro.

Co-Conference Champions...LOL
 
LazyD said:
And so TCU and Baylor play a game and one of them wins. The committee now has a clear top 4 teams?
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If TCU and Baylor played again the winner of that game would now have their new best win of the season, and their best feather in their cap. Sooo umm yeah, in what world would that not help one of them get into the top 4??

Really hope you been smoking drugs and in the morning you'll just be like, "haha, jk guys!"
 
I've heard it will be(and hope it is)..
1- Bama
2- Oregon
3- Florida State
4- Ohio State

urban meyer gets his shot vs bama & former hesiman(winston) vs current heisman(mariota)
 
Found this to be interesting.........

"You want to talk about schedule strength? The Buckeyes didn't play an FCS foe (Baylor played Northwestern State and TCU played Samford). Plus, Ohio State had to play an extra game against Wisconsin on Saturday night. The 12 FBS teams the Buckeyes defeated averaged 6.67 victories. The 10 FBS teams that Baylor and TCU beat averaged 5.5 wins and 5.4, respectively."

I especially like the part about "the 10 FBS teams that Baylor and tcu beat averaged 5.5 and 5.4 wins. Cal won 5 games right? and lowly byu beat them in their own place.
Not too impressive of a schedule strength if the teams that Baylor and tcu beat are only "cal" type of quality teams on average.
 
I watch about 12 hours of college football every Saturday. I've seen each of these teams (OSU, TCU, Baylor) play about 4-5 times each this year and in my humble opinion, TCU is the best team. They are basically an eight minute brainfart away from being undefeated--they were dominating Baylor, took the foot off the pedal a little and things just snowballed.

That said, I can understand why Ohio State would be voted in. I just hope they aren't because I find them completely uninspiring and overrated.
 
UGLI baby said:
Are you pretending not to understand this bro?

It is all about building a resume. A conference championship game is one huge box that Ohio St can check off on their resume that TCU and Baylor cant. Like, its just a literal fact.

If TCU and Baylor are the only 1 loss teams left, yeah, take one of them. Since Ohio St has 1 loss, and has something on their resume that TCU and Baylor cant, its really a no brainer.

This is really really simple bro.

Co-Conference Champions...LOL
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I understand what you are saying. You clearly have no clue what I'm talking about.

Not sure how I'm being a 'homer' in trying to explain that a Big 12 team might get in despite not having a conference championship game. The committee will pick which team they think is better, a concept that is foreign to you. Why don't you answer my questions? TCU beats Baylor in a conference championship game and so the committee still has to pick between OSU and TCU? Teams from different conferences? That's really difficult, and it doesn't fix much of anything.

The Big 12 plays an additional conference game instead of scheduling Kent State or Navy. OSU only played Wisconsin once this year, what was this extra boost they received? They didn't play any more conference games than TCU or Baylor. They didn't play Wisconsin twice.
 
Sounds to me like the Big 12 should actually schedule opponents and expand to 12 teams in order to have a conference championship.
 
The Thriller said:
Sounds to me like the Big 12 should actually schedule opponents and expand to 12 teams in order to have a conference championship.
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Agreed. The Big 12 was rightfully punished for not having a conference title game. Watching Bama and especially Ohio State romp in their championship games had to resonate with the committee big time. Now let's see if the Big 12 tries to expand and whether or not BYU can get out of their own way and score an invite.
 
Why would the Big 12 be getting punished? If the committee picks OSU it's because they believe they are better than TCU and Baylor. A conference 'punishment' has nothing to do with it. Y'all think funny.
 
Yeah, expansion would be great to get a title game, but some of y'all should suggest your great and fair ideas for a conference championship game in a conference with 10 teams.
 
LazyD said:
The Big 12 plays an additional conference game instead of scheduling Kent State or Navy.
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Osu played zero division 2 schools.

Tcu and baylor both had division two schools on thier schedule this year doe
 
LazyD said:
Why would the Big 12 be getting punished? If the committee picks OSU it's because they believe they are better than TCU and Baylor. A conference 'punishment' has nothing to do with it. Y'all think funny.
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Because playing a championship game gives credibility to that champion. Listen, the Big 12 needs to get with the program and expand so they can join everyone else in having conference championships. Unless the Big 12 has a team that runs the table, they're always going to be left out because the other big conferences have a championship game. whether you agree with it or not, in the eyes of most committee members, having that championship game gives the conference champion a leg up on those conference champions who don't play a championship game.

i honestly don't think its political either. Had texas lost one game and been in the same position as Baylor and TCU, I still think the committee would take the 4 teams from leagues that had conference championship games. It just makes the decision making process so much easier when you do this.

Big 12? Time to expand! They have no other choice.
 
fishonjazz said:
Osu played zero division 2 schools.

Tcu and baylor both had division two schools on thier schedule this year doe
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Okay....

You guys clearly aren't following what I'm trying to say. I am not discussing schedule strength, I am saying the committee will pick who they believe to be the best teams. You know, like what they're supposed to do. How did Wichita St. get a one seed last year? Their schedule strength wasn't as good as most teams seeded below them. How did Utah get to play Alabama in that BCS bowl a while back? Was it their rigorous Mountain West schedule?

Y'all assume having the strongest schedule means that that team is better?

If you are so concerned w/ strength of schedule, you should compare TCU's to Ohio State. I haven't looked, but I'd guess TCU's is rated tougher.
 
LazyD said:
I understand what you are saying. You clearly have no clue what I'm talking about.

Not sure how I'm being a 'homer' in trying to explain that a Big 12 team might get in despite not having a conference championship game. The committee will pick which team they think is better, a concept that is foreign to you. Why don't you answer my questions? TCU beats Baylor in a conference championship game and so the committee still has to pick between OSU and TCU? Teams from different conferences? That's really difficult, and it doesn't fix much of anything.

The Big 12 plays an additional conference game instead of scheduling Kent State or Navy. OSU only played Wisconsin once this year, what was this extra boost they received? They didn't play any more conference games than TCU or Baylor. They didn't play Wisconsin twice.
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Bro, quit playin. I understand you like the Big 12, but you know it's the lack of a conference championship that left them in the cold. You are a smart dude.
 
I'll bring this up since we are all thinking about it... I think BYU is going to be given a chance to join in the next 2 years. Whether or not they pull the trigger remains to be seen. I think many involved in the athletic programs would bend on BYU TV to join a conference. Bronco has made his opinion on getting into a conference clear. But I'm not sure if those above him feel so strongly.

Interesting times.

I hope for the sake of sports in this state that BYU joins the Big 12. How great would it be to have USC play up at Rice and Texas play down in Provo? Huge for fans, restaurants and other local businesses, and great for the overall perception of our state.
 
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fishonjazz said:
Osu played zero division 2 schools.

Tcu and baylor both had division two schools on thier schedule this year doe
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Yep. That clearly makes them the better team. That is the finitude of the committee's criteria. Shoot them an email and wrap up this thing early.
 
LazyD said:
Okay....

You guys clearly aren't following what I'm trying to say. I am not discussing schedule strength, I am saying the committee will pick who they believe to be the best teams. You know, like what they're supposed to do. How did Wichita St. get a one seed last year? Their schedule strength wasn't as good as most teams seeded below them. How did Utah get to play Alabama in that BCS bowl a while back? Was it their rigorous Mountain West schedule?

Y'all assume having the strongest schedule means that that team is better?

If you are so concerned w/ strength of schedule, you should compare TCU's to Ohio State. I haven't looked, but I'd guess TCU's is rated tougher.
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In all seriousness, it is occurring to me that maybe you don't follow college football all that closely since you are a basketball guy.

What you have outlined in your post isn't really how it works, and Utah to the Sugar Bowl was an entirely different process under the BCS.
 
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