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2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

I like the idea of trading for a stretch 4 and keeping Favors as a back up center if possible. We would then most likely have to trade either Rubio or Exum and I'd think Exum would be more valuable. A trade like Exum/Sefalosha/Draft picks?? for Tobias Harris would be perfect IMO. The $$ is basically even and it would definitely improve the Jazz.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y96a5uy4

Rubio / Neto
Mitchell / Korver
Ingles / Oneal
Harris / Crowder
Gobert / Favors

Not many teams would have that kind of depth at frontcourt and having a stretch 4 on both the 1st and 2nd unit would be nice.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I think the Conley suitors are:

- orlando
- Detroit
- San Antonio
- New Orleans
- Indiana
- Maybe Minny or Phoenix
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I don’t see those teams pursuing him.

Indy is too damn good right now and doesn’t have the contracts to make it work. It would have to involve way too many players, and he also doesn’t fit their timeline imo.

I don’t see the Pistons being able to get the contracts to work (why would the Grizz want Drummond) or having enough solid assets to offer while still retaining some to have a complete enough roster to compete. Which is the clear objective if you’re acquiring Conley.

I don’t see the Spurs at all either. They’re not going to dump DD or Aldridge. Those guys are too important for them in win now mode. So I don’t see any contracts working here. Maybe more importantly, they love DW and I doubt they’d want to pull the reins from him as they’ve really started to click.

Maybe??? Conley and Caboclo for Hill, Moore, and Johnson and a 1st? I’m not even sure if the Grizz have an extra roster spot, the Pels have a 1st, or if that’s enough. IMO, the Grizz would want more and if I’m the Pels, I don’t give them more. That’s a tough spot for them with Davis. Maybe you do it and cross your fingers he sticks around. Mrotic would probably have to be involved. And maybe that’s a good thing for them.

I don’t see Orlando at all. Lose and try to get ping pong balls. Next year would be the better time to go after a vet pg to teach the young uns how to win imo. Same for Phoenix.
 
DerekFromTexas08 said:
I like the idea of trading for a stretch 4 and keeping Favors as a back up center if possible. We would then most likely have to trade either Rubio or Exum and I'd think Exum would be more valuable. A trade like Exum/Sefalosha/Draft picks?? for Tobias Harris would be perfect IMO. The $$ is basically even and it would definitely improve the Jazz.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y96a5uy4

Rubio / Neto
Mitchell / Korver
Ingles / Oneal
Harris / Crowder
Gobert / Favors

Not many teams would have that kind of depth at frontcourt and having a stretch 4 on both the 1st and 2nd unit would be nice.
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I doubt favors would be cool with that though

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I think we need to go young or prime with a trade.

Harris
Winslow (if we have to take a bad contract)
Stanley Johnson
Bridges (if we have to take Batum)
Porter (this idea is waning with me though)

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Wes Mantooth said:
I don’t see those teams pursuing him.

Indy is too damn good right now and doesn’t have the contracts to make it work. It would have to involve way too many players, and he also doesn’t fit their timeline imo.

I don’t see the Pistons being able to get the contracts to work (why would the Grizz want Drummond) or having enough solid assets to offer while still retaining some to have a complete enough roster to compete. Which is the clear objective if you’re acquiring Conley.

I don’t see the Spurs at all either. They’re not going to dump DD or Aldridge. Those guys are too important for them in win now mode. So I don’t see any contracts working here. Maybe more importantly, they love DW and I doubt they’d want to pull the reins from him as they’ve really started to click.

Maybe??? Conley and Caboclo for Hill, Moore, and Johnson and a 1st? I’m not even sure if the Grizz have an extra roster spot, the Pels have a 1st, or if that’s enough. IMO, the Grizz would want more and if I’m the Pels, I don’t give them more. That’s a tough spot for them with Davis. Maybe you do it and cross your fingers he sticks around. Mrotic would probably have to be involved. And maybe that’s a good thing for them.

I don’t see Orlando at all. Lose and try to get ping pong balls. Next year would be the better time to go after a vet pg to teach the young uns how to win imo. Same for Phoenix.
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SA wants to win now... they could send back Gasol/Mills and a pick plus white or Walker. This may be pops last season.

Indy can send a first Collison/Evans/O quinn/Leaf

Pistons a first, Jackson, filler...

The issue with Conley's deal... is his deal... gonna take a few contracts to add up to that bohemoth.
 
fishonjazz said:
This season matters to me too though.
If we can give up favors and a pick them I think we should do it. Would make us better this year imo, we would likely be losing favors anyway if we were to chase Tobias in the summer, and maybe Tobias loves it here and chooses us like Paul George did in okc

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Oh so you guys are thinking that Faves and a 1st is all it would take? That's the disconnect cause that wouldn't be close.
 
David Stern said:
You trade for Tobias for two reasons:
- You want to keep Rubio's bird rights and resign him
- You want the advantage of offering him a 5 year max
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Since Mitch and Gobert are (obviously) off the table we are probably talking multiple 1sts. Don't think that's worth it for bird rights and an extra year.
 
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If the Clippers essentially salary dumped their best player for a crappy 1st round pick, the NBA would definitely need to investigate tampering because that would mean somebody gave them a guarantee.
 
Douchebag K said:
maybe but Love has actually played at the very highest level
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With a super duper star and he was targeted by the offense a ton. He had value and made a really key stop but he got there because he rode the GOAT.
 
MDAV28 said:
Oh so you guys are thinking that Faves and a 1st is all it would take? That's the disconnect cause that wouldn't be close.
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I have no idea but I think that is what the discussion was about.

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Douchebag K said:
sure, he still had to fit in and adapt his game to that tho. I just want some more bastards on our team who can freaking shoot the ball
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You can get that much cheaper and in a more durable player. Niko... Bjelica

Love offers more through rebounding and foul drawing than those guys... ain’t worth the premium doe.
 
DerekFromTexas08 said:
I like the idea of trading for a stretch 4 and keeping Favors as a back up center if possible. We would then most likely have to trade either Rubio or Exum and I'd think Exum would be more valuable. A trade like Exum/Sefalosha/Draft picks?? for Tobias Harris would be perfect IMO. The $$ is basically even and it would definitely improve the Jazz.
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Favors would ask to be traded because he would only be playing 13 minutes a game at that point.
 
MDAV28 said:
Discussion was about trading for Tobias. I had no idea the package proposed. For as much as people love Tobias here, I assumed a bigger package than Faves and a 1st would have been the starting point.
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Unrestricted free agent will tank his value. Doubt anyone would go meaningfully higher and the clips are one of the teams that Favs would be a monstrous upgrade over their current starting center.

They may not be convinced they can make the playoffs and may have their sights set higher. Favs at his team option may be a decent consolation prize if FA doesn’t work out for them. Plus the first.

Their start was unexpected... Gallo has now been out with back issues... Lou is on a minutes restriction... they may be headed for a tumble either way.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Unrestricted free agent will tank his value. Doubt anyone would go meaningfully higher and the clips are one of the teams that Favs would be a monstrous upgrade over their current starting center.

They may not be convinced they can make the playoffs and may have their sights set higher. Favs at his team option may be a decent consolation prize if FA doesn’t work out for them. Plus the first.

Their start was unexpected... Gallo has now been out with back issues... Lou is on a minutes restriction... they may be headed for a tumble either way.
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The value to THEM is much much higher than that. I definitely think their sights are set higher, but having a player like Tobias rights and history in case their FA pitches don't work is extremely valuable to them, regardless of how they view the season. Much more than a late 1st.
 
MDAV28 said:
The value to THEM is much much higher than that. I definitely think their sights are set higher, but having a player like Tobias rights and history in case their FA pitches don't work is extremely valuable to them, regardless of how they view the season. Much more than a late 1st.
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I agree somewhat, but it’s kind of arrogant to assume a guy that will get max offers from others the moment free agency opens is gonna wait for you to pitch KD and Kawhi... although they may have given up on getting two guys... it’s not realistic imo... but they were/maybe still are deadass serious.

La is nice but Tobias will get 4 max offers as long as he’s healthy. Potentially better markets and basketball situations... Dallas, Sacramento, Brooklyn, Utah, all could pony up an offer... we know KD and Kawhi will take at least a day or two... Harris gonna hope Clips miss and settle on him? What’s his incentive to wait on them?

I’d start some rumors that they have their sights set elsewhere and are shopping him ahead of the deadline... even if it ain’t true let’s plant some seeds of doubt.
 
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