2023 NBA Draft Megathread

[Handlogten's Heros]

You’re saying the #2 player on your board is better than both 3/4 together. That is ****ing wild lol. Miller could easily end up being the second best player in the class.

Maybe... but I'd rather have Wemby than Scoot and Miller. Its not a direct 1+1=2 type of equation. In the 2019 draft would you rather have Ja or RJ Barrett and Deandre Hunter?

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

There are some nice defensive plays and end-to-end drives in these McDonald's All American highlights...


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqK794HZzjA

 

[Elizah Huge]

Maybe... but I'd rather have Wemby than Scoot and Miller. Its not a direct 1+1=2 type of equation. In the 2019 draft would you rather have Ja or RJ Barrett and Deandre Hunter?

In the 2021 draft would you rather have Green or Mobley and Barnes?

 

[Bodhi]

Wow… no way. I’d take Miller and Amen all day. Hell, I would hesitate to take Scoot over Miller as it is today.

Not even a question

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

In the 2021 draft would you rather have Green or Mobley and Barnes?

Exactly... that's why its a toss up for me. I'm clearly in the minority... but I think there are times it would absolutely make sense. I think people are overthinking it a bit with Scoot... I think he's a better prospect than Amen by a significant margin. I love Miller's game. I just think the hardest thing to get is a superstar and Scoot has a better shot at being that than both Miller and Amen combined. Total value if one of Miller or Amen is an All-star may still favor Miller/Amen.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

With regard to Walker... I think he does have the look and body of an NBA dude, but I'm more partial to guys that are easier to define. I think of him like Kuminga... he theoretically does a lot of things but it doesn't quite all come together and he doesn't have the one thing to hang his hat on. I will take less potential if it comes with some valuable skills.

Again... I know I'm in the minority here... and I'd be happy to have either guy.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Exactly... that's why its a toss up for me. I'm clearly in the minority... but I think there are times it would absolutely make sense. I think people are overthinking it a bit with Scoot... I think he's a better prospect than Amen by a significant margin. I love Miller's game. I just think the hardest thing to get is a superstar and Scoot has a better shot at being that than both Miller and Amen combined. Total value if one of Miller or Amen is an All-star may still favor Miller/Amen.

I think you’re underrating Miller a bit.

 

[whatthe]

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Hendo has the more directly translatable game. He shoots 3's and he shoots them well. Jarace has better indicators for upside with his ball-handling and flashes of self-creation.

Hendo is also kind of top heavy with twig legs. Jarace is just a full-built tank.

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Side by side look at Per 40 minutes numbers in conference play for Jarace and Hendricks.

This team needs more muscle. Walker is more finesse. Lauri is a blend of finesse and power. It would be great if the team would put someone with insane power in the lineup.

 

[hzg511]

It pretty much seems that we are gonna get a good one - or three. Right now everything looks pretty promising. Coach Hardy, Lauri 2.0, Kessler, Agbaji, sexton, cj(?) and the new guys. All this with the cap space and picks..

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I think you’re underrating Miller a bit.

Prolly. Good news is we likely won’t have the option to trade picks 3 and 4 for #2… and if we do end up there DA will get #2 if he wants it on the cheap.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Watching some highlights of Whitmore and I thing I may have him in the wrong spot… man 4-12 is just so hard… there are lots of good choices.

The ball handling and driving plus the shot are all super fluid. He had a thumb injury so there’s a chance he’s shooting below his capabilities.

Good luck Danny and JZ

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

It looked quicker... I think he knows he has time so the load up looks a little slow. It may actually help him to shoot it quicker. It is a bit mechanical... but it has the right recipe.

I'm thinking my board now is

Vic
Scoot
Miller
Amen
Ausar - I'm feeling more confident about him.
Hendo
Black
Whitmore
Walker
Wallace
George


Then a bunch of other dudes.

Think I’d move Whitmore right with Ausar

 

[KqWIN]

Watching some highlights of Whitmore and I thing I may have him in the wrong spot… man 4-12 is just so hard… there are lots of good choices.

The ball handling and driving plus the shot are all super fluid. He had a thumb injury so there’s a chance he’s shooting below his capabilities.

Good luck Danny and JZ

Walker, Whitmore, and Clowney are the top "looks the part" guys in this draft IMO. They just move super well and have great frames. I suppose you can put the Thompson twins in there too....I just have no idea what to think of them or how to place them.

The french wings are all pretty impressive from a physical standpoint too.

 

[Eddie Zero]

Whitehead especially and Whitmore to some degree are both impacted by injuries so there is little doubt they will be better offensively without those issues, given they were projected to be the past few years, and are not negatively impacted by the size of college players or anything.Not to think that is why their shots aint falling the way they would have been.
I think Whitehead could be a steal late lottery, not sure anyone will have the salt to risk it though now. Maybe he falls to us with the Wolves pick and makes more sense then. Cam will be long gone imo

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

If we are doing the would you rather thing... I think the right question is - if the Minny pick lands at say #16, how many picks would you add to get a pick in the 8-10 range... regardless of where our own pick landed.

#16, 2025 Cavs pick, Lakers pick seems like the line for me...Would need to be pretty sold on whoever it was we were trying to get.

 

[default]

If we are doing the would you rather thing... I think the right question is - if the Minny pick lands at say #16, how many picks would you add to get a pick in the 8-10 range... regardless of where our own pick landed.

#16, 2025 Cavs pick, Lakers pick seems like the line for me...Would need to be pretty sold on whoever it was we were trying to get.

I wouldn't give up the 2025 Cavs pick or the Lakers pick. However, I would see if we could use our Philly/Nets pick to upgrade one of our other two first rounders a little though. If not, then trade it away for a protected 2024 first round pick.

 

[Udidthizz]

I like both. I dont have that many concerns about Ausar shooting the ball. I think he's going to be a passable shooter if he's used as an off-ball player

I love Amen, but his shooting is a concern. It's hard to be a lead guard if you cant shoot off the dribble.

I haven’t seen any of their games which may explain it, but why is Amen rated higher than Ausar? I’ve just seen their numbers and if anything they slightly favour Ausar. And physically they’re obviously pretty much identical. Honest question, I’m not suggesting Ausar should be rated higher.

 

[Udidthizz]

If we are doing the would you rather thing... I think the right question is - if the Minny pick lands at say #16, how many picks would you add to get a pick in the 8-10 range... regardless of where our own pick landed.

#16, 2025 Cavs pick, Lakers pick seems like the line for me...Would need to be pretty sold on whoever it was we were trying to get.

I would use that Lakers pick first and would have no problem giving it up. But I’m fairly risk averse by nature and prefer the bird in the hand (moving up to a concrete higher pick for a guy we like using the Lakers pick and keeping our unprotected ones) to however many are in the bush (the risk of it turning into a paltry 2nd).

 

[sip]

I haven’t seen any of their games which may explain it, but why is Amen rated higher than Ausar? I’ve just seen their numbers and if anything they slightly favour Ausar. And physically they’re obviously pretty much identical. Honest question, I’m not suggesting Ausar should be rated higher.

Amen has always been rated higher because he has been more of a pg and is a matchup nightmare if he can become even somewhat consistent with his outside shot.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I haven’t seen any of their games which may explain it, but why is Amen rated higher than Ausar? I’ve just seen their numbers and if anything they slightly favour Ausar. And physically they’re obviously pretty much identical. Honest question, I’m not suggesting Ausar should be rated higher.

Amen is the better athlete and has the ball in his hands more. Amen just an overall more unique player.