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Coach Ellis said:
If GG goes lottery, I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see Toronto draft him. That definitely sound like a Masai Ujiri type of pick.

Not saying I think they will, but it wouldn’t shock me either.
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First time I saw GGs highlight I thought to myself, he’s a dead ringer for Scotty Barnes.. lol
 
Filipowski is extremely talented and has carried Duke all year. He had to force a lot of stuff early because no one else on Duke could score.

Now Duke is a lot better as a team and it has allowed Filipowski to be more efficient. The difference in their floor spacing quality is night/day from the start of the year.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Filipowski is extremely talented and has carried Duke all year. He had to force a lot of stuff early because no one else on Duke could score.

Now Duke is a lot better as a team and it has allowed Filipowski to be more efficient. The difference in their floor spacing quality is night/day from the start of the year.
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He was extremely clutch tonight. It felt like he got every big rebound.
 
If I’m being completely honest, if I was an NBA GM, I wouldn’t even put that much stock into how a guy’s freshman season went - good or bad. Just too many variables, and not enough of a sample size.

Take the tape and numbers to use as a baseline, but it’s all going to be my personal projection based on his private workouts and interviews. With guys that young, it’s all projection. What they do for their one year in college really isn’t all that important to how they’ll do as a pro. If DA thinks any of these guys have a super high upside, I hope he just drafts them - even if they’re considered a reach by pundits and fans. Do your homework and pick your guy.
 
Coach Ellis said:
If I’m being completely honest, if I was an NBA GM, I wouldn’t even put that much stock into how a guy’s freshman season went - good or bad. Just too many variables, and not enough of a sample size.

Take the tape and numbers to use as a baseline, but it’s all going to be my personal projection based on his private workouts and interviews. With guys that young, it’s all projection. What they do for their one year in college really isn’t all that important to how they’ll do as a pro. If DA thinks any of these guys have a super high upside, I hope he just drafts them - even if they’re considered a reach by pundits and fans. Do your homework and pick your guy.
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I think you take the college tape into consideration, definitely, or high school if that's all there is. However, you need to look at the context. With GG, how did he shoot on uncontested jumpers? How did he finish at the rim when he had space? How well did he rebound in his area? How consistently did he beat his defender off the dribble? How well did he defend in the paint? Etc. You have to break his game into pieces and extrapolate what he might look like in an NBA setting. Then you have to bring him in for a workout and test him on certain things you want to see to the extent you can. You have to project what he's going to be able to do at an NBA level.

GG is a 6'9" athletic prospect who is comfortable scoring at three levels and has enough handle and body control to beat defenders off the bounce. That's pretty rare and pretty valuable. His best highlights are probably his well-timed cuts to the rim and strong finishes. If he grows another inch and adds a bit to his wingspan, those drives are going to be tough to stop.

The Blazers drafted Shaedon Sharpe based on workouts and high school tape. He's the right size for a big guard. His athleticism is top-shelf. He can create space and knock down shots. That's all they needed to see.
 
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Ferguson_Mellochill said:
I think you take the college tape into consideration, definitely, or high school if that's all there is. However, you need to look at the context. With GG, how did he shoot on uncontested jumpers? How did he finish at the rim when he had space? How well did he rebound in his area? How consistently did he beat his defender off the dribble? How well did he defend in the paint? Etc. You have to break his game into pieces and extrapolate what he might look like in an NBA setting. Then you have to bring him in for a workout and test him on certain things you want to see to the extent you can. You have to project what he's going to be able to do at an NBA level.

GG is a 6'9" athletic prospect who is comfortable scoring at three levels and has enough handle and body control to beat defenders off the bounce. That's pretty rare and pretty valuable. His best highlights are probably his well-timed cuts to the rim and strong finishes. If he grows another inch and adds a bit to his wingspan, those drives are going to be tough to stop.

The Blazers drafted Shaedon Sharpe based on workouts and high school tape. He's the right size for a big guard. His athleticism is top-shelf. He can create space and knock down shots. That's all they needed to see.
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Ummm sir… blazers hired Mike Schmitz… so they had more than HS tape. And sharpe might suck.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
See if the teams who are actually drafting believe that hype.
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I think unless he gets exposed in the tournament for the lack of a first step, like Harrison Barnes did when the Tarheels pg was out injured, and Barnes could not create foir himself, then maybe he falls to 5-8 range, but he has not shown that much limitation as a ball handler imo , to think his stock will be hurt for those reasons anyway. Now maybe some other prospect jumps ahead for multiple other reasons, but I doubt any will if the draft stocks are similar at the end of June as they are now anyway.
I have going 4th at the latest if the draft were today
 
Great Clowney game today. The shot is falling which is nice, but he’s also demonstrating how impressive his physical traits are.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Ummm sir… blazers hired Mike Schmitz… so they had more than HS tape. And sharpe might suck.
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GG also just doesn’t have the physical traits as Sharpe. I can see how Sharpe stands out in a workout. GG doesn’t have great length, burst, strength, or vertical ability.

If Sharpe stunk it up in college he probably wouldn’t have been drafted as high either.
 
Eddie Zero said:
I think unless he gets exposed in the tournament for the lack of a first step, like Harrison Barnes did when the Tarheels pg was out injured, and Barnes could not create foir himself, then maybe he falls to 5-8 range, but he has not shown that much limitation as a ball handler imo , to think his stock will be hurt for those reasons anyway. Now maybe some other prospect jumps ahead for multiple other reasons, but I doubt any will if the draft stocks are similar at the end of June as they are now anyway.
I have going 4th at the latest if the draft were today
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He's shown more off the dribble in these last two games. His improvement from 2pt range during the season was largely due to the fact that he stopped taking mid-range jumpers. He now just shoots 3s and goes to the rim. I think realistically, Miller is in the same tier as Amen Thompson and Cam Whitmore, in the 3 - 5 range, and it will depend on team need to some extent. If it were me personally, I'd want an All Star and potential #1 option, and I don't think that's what Miller is. However, I could see a team view him as a solid and safe pick who fits their team. Keegan Murray went #4 last year to Sacramento largely because the Kings were heavily invested in Fox and didn't want to spend a #4 pick on Jaden Ivey.

The argument for Miller going #2 in draft talk really stemmed from the fact that Detroit was sitting at #2 in most mocks, and they've already invested top-5 picks in Cade Cunningham and Jaden Ivey. So then the question is whether the Pistons would draft another guy like Scoot or Amen who really needs the ball in his hands. Miller makes a lot of sense for the Pistons, like Murray made sense for the Kings.

I think the general consensus is probably that Victor, Scoot and Amen are still the top 3 NBA prospects. However a team that already has a strong lead guard might not want to spend a top-3 pick on another guard. At the same time, I think there are going to be teams that would take Cam Whitmore ahead of Miller, since Whitmore is a prototypical power wing with clear mismatch and All Star potential.
 
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KqWIN said:
GG also just doesn’t have the physical traits as Sharpe. I can see how Sharpe stands out in a workout. GG doesn’t have great length, burst, strength, or vertical ability.

If Sharpe stunk it up in college he probably wouldn’t have been drafted as high either.
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In terms of purely physical traits, GG is comparable to Tatum though nearly a year younger.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
He's shown more off the dribble in these last two games. His improvement from 2pt range during the season was largely due to the fact that he stopped taking mid-range jumpers. He now just shoots 3s and goes to the rim. I think realistically, Miller is in the same tier as Amen Thompson and Cam Whitmore, in the 3 - 5 range, and it will depend on team need to some extent. If it were me personally, I'd want an All Star and potential #1 option, and I don't think that's what Miller is. However, I could see a team view him as a solid and safe pick who fits their team. Keegan Murray went #4 last year to Sacramento largely because the Kings were heavily invested in Fox and didn't want to spend a #4 pick on Jaden Ivey.

The argument for Miller going #2 in draft talk really stemmed from the fact that Detroit was sitting at #2 in most mocks, and they've already invested top-5 picks in Cade Cunningham and Jaden Ivey. So then the question is whether the Pistons would draft another guy like Scoot or Amen who really needs the ball in his hands. Miller makes a lot of sense for the Pistons, like Murray made sense for the Kings.

I think the general consensus is probably that Victor, Scoot and Amen are still the top 3 NBA prospects. However a team that already has a strong lead guard might not want to spend a top-3 pick on another guard. At the same time, I think there are going to be teams that would take Cam Whitmore ahead of Miller, since Whitmore is a prototypical power wing with clear mismatch and All Star potential.
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