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Ha I just watched GG for essentially the first time last night and come to see all this recent discussion about him! The talent level is clearly apparent, along with the rawness. I’d be happy to take the risk drafting him. He’s got a bit of a “backpack” shot, but looks simple and repeatable and translatable off the dribble and on the move. He’s also huge and athletic and wouldn’t surprise me if he keeps growing. If he didn’t reclassify, it wouldn’t surprise me if he was the favorite to go #1 overall next year.

Sam Vecenie’s mock had Ausar and GG going one spot before our picks (#8 and #27). The blogbois and pro writers seem to be lower on GG. I feel like teams will be much higher on him than consensus.
 
zyzz said:
Ha I just watched GG for essentially the first time last night and come to see all this recent discussion about him! The talent level is clearly apparent, along with the rawness. I’d be happy to take the risk drafting him. He’s got a bit of a “backpack” shot, but looks simple and repeatable and translatable off the dribble and on the move. He’s also huge and athletic and wouldn’t surprise me if he keeps growing. If he didn’t reclassify, it wouldn’t surprise me if he was the favorite to go #1 overall next year.

Sam Vecenie’s mock had Ausar and GG going one spot before our picks (#8 and #27). The blogbois and pro writers seem to be lower on GG. I feel like teams will be much higher on him than consensus.
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I feel like out of all the mock drafts out there, DX best reflects what NBA teams are thinking. A blogger is going to make a mock or big board to reflect their opinion whereas DX is built more so off of intel. DX has GG in the second round.

I personally think that he will get drafted high because it only takes one team to fall in love with him....Ziarie Williams is the comparison that I think makes most sense and I think GG might be a better prospect than him. But there are also guys who disappoint who end up falling pretty far. Think McDaniels, BJ Boston, Pat Baldwin etc.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
No... but we have the second year data... because one guy developed it does not mean another will. Should we take Emoni at #9?
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right we don't have to wonder with bufkin. he's a known (at least in college) commodity - we've seen the development. that said, sure, take GG, hope for the best. none of these guys are sure things, so what the hell. even though he sucked ***, he was young, and who knows maybe he figures it out. has the size and athleticism.
 
KqWIN said:
I feel like out of all the mock drafts out there, DX best reflects what NBA teams are thinking. A blogger is going to make a mock or big board to reflect their opinion whereas DX is built more so off of intel. DX has GG in the second round.

I personally think that he will get drafted high because it only takes one team to fall in love with him....Ziarie Williams is the comparison that I think makes most sense and I think GG might be a better prospect than him. But there are also guys who disappoint who end up falling pretty far. Think McDaniels, BJ Boston, Pat Baldwin etc.
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yup. Zaire was horrendous his one year at stanford. as you said, it only takes one.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
One guy that has really stood out in the 2 camp scrimmages is Johni Broome. If you havent watched, you should look into him.

He's young for his class and was a dominant big man his first two years at Moorehead State. He transfers to Auburn his junior year and didnt lose much in terms of production and his advanced stats increased. He's mobile, physical, protects the rim and has nice touch. He's showing off an improved shooting stroke at the combines that gives him a bit more upside. Will turn 21 in July. Could be a 2nd round steal as a 10 year backup big type, similar to a Richaun Holmes.
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absolutely in the discussion in that 35-50 range. he's good.
 
KqWIN said:
I don't mind the YOLO mentality.....or the idea behind it I guess. You want to maximize your chance at getting a star even if it means a higher risk at a bust. I just think people calculate those chances poorly. The guys who turn into stars are often the guys like Mikal who are cast as role players. They aren't guys like Ziaire Williams who sucked at being a star at the college level.

Mikal, Bane, Brogdon, Brunson, Butler, Haliburton, Shai (yes read some of his predraft scouting reports), Sabonis, Siakam, FVV, Booker, Jokic ect.......These are guys who became big steals later in the draft. The reason why they weren't drafted higher isn't because they sucked coming into the league, it's because people thought their potential was lower coming into the draft because of X, Y, Z.
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i'd throw luka in that group. the knock on him was that despite being awesome in europe he was very near his ceiling already.
 
Kentucky guards that have outperformed their draft position since 2015

Devin Booker
SGA
Fox - top 5 but still
Jamal Murray
Herro
Quickley
Maxey

Did not include Keldon Johnson as he is more of a wing but worth mentioning.

Malik Monk hasn't been fantastic but wanted to mention him.

If you are in to draft trends that is about as convincing and reliable as any.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
i'd throw luka in that group. the knock on him was that despite being awesome in europe he was very near his ceiling already.
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People did say that, but I refuse because of how stupid the Luka discourse was lol. He was also #3 and I'm talking about guys drafted quite a bit lower. But yeah, I do think people miss on floor/ceiling. They are made up concepts anyways.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
i'd throw luka in that group. the knock on him was that despite being awesome in europe he was very near his ceiling already.
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The book was that maybe he wasn't a good athlete. I remember hearing stuff like super rich man's Joe Ingles if NBA athleticism overwhelms him. 3 teams passed on him.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Kentucky guards that have outperformed their draft position since 2015

Devin Booker
SGA
Fox - top 5 but still
Jamal Murray
Herro
Quickley
Maxey

Did not include Keldon Johnson as he is more of a wing but worth mentioning.

Malik Monk hasn't been fantastic but wanted to mention him.

If you are in to draft trends that is about as convincing and reliable as any.
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i'd put keldon johnson in that group for sure. there is definitely something to it when so many guys go to kentucky as big time prospects, look average at kentucky and then look really good in the nba. maxey and quickley especially. they were straight trash as freshmen.

hate to say it, but it also goes to cy's point about gg - guys really can look pretty crappy as freshmen and you just have no idea how they will develop or their games will improve in the league. quentin grimes is another who was absolutely garbage at kansas as a frosh.
 
These are 3 different players. Can anyone name all three REDACTED players without cheating?

NBA teams in the lottery are usually hoping to find a player who projects as either a lockdown defender, or a prolific scoring option which REDACTED is neither as of right now. With that said, the shooting guard position lacks quite a bit of depth in this draft class and in the NBA as a whole right now, and there's never been a higher premium put on floor-spacing and 3-point shooters. While REDACTED may not possess superstar potential, he also comes with very little risk, as it will be very very surprising if he doesn't end up developing into at least a solid NBA player. At age 18, as the youngest player who will hear his name called on draft night, and someone who is younger than many of the players who participated in this year's McDonald's All-American game, there is plenty of room for him to continue to improve despite not possessing incredible physical tools or upside.
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REDACTED isn’t the most creative player and has some struggles getting his own shot.

He doesn’t shoot particularly well off the dribble and his slow release gives the defender plenty of time to react and challenge the shot.

He projects as more of a glue-guy starter rather than a star player and probably won’t be a first or second option offensively.
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Projected role: Low-end starter

Without the speed, athleticism or reliable three-ball, REDACTED projects as more of a role player than a star. He could start one day if given enough support, but low-end starter, like [Elfrid] Payton, is his likeliest ceiling. REDACTED checks boxes for a guard—he just doesn't own any.
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seattlejazzfan said:
can we get a tl;dw on this?
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Ausar is better on defense especially helping off the weak side to get blocks and steals and has a more consistent shot. Amen is slightly more athletic (both amazing) but tends to force it which can cause more turnovers per assist. Amen prefers to attack the rim and dunk, but while Ausar does some of that, he likes to contort his body to split defenders and scoop it in. This reviewer gives a slight edge to Ausar. I've read that for most of their lives Ausar was considered the better player and would win most one on one. In the last year there has been a bit of a shift in perception from scouts favoring Amen.
 
KqWIN said:
These are 3 different players. Can anyone name all three REDACTED players without cheating?
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first must be gg. the third, if his ceiling is elfrid payton, he shouldn't even be drafted - but something tells me this dude is a moron and that isn't his ceiling assuming he's in the first round conversation - again, if elfrid payton is anybody's absolute best case scenario, you don't take him earlier than 50.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
first must be gg. the third, if his ceiling is elfrid payton, he shouldn't even be drafted - but something tells me this dude is a moron and that isn't his ceiling assuming he's in the first round conversation - again, if elfrid payton is anybody's absolute best case scenario, you don't take him earlier than 50.
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These are guys in the NBA already.
 
KqWIN said:
These are 3 different players. Can anyone name all three REDACTED players without cheating?
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I'd say first is Booker... bottom two one is likely Haliburton... I think.
 
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