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2024-2025 Tank Race

SoberasHotRod said:
TOR wins by 11
CHI wins/DET loses by 10
Was loses by 28

Pretty good day for the tank
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Atlanta, Chicago, and Detroit are like 5-10 good games away from really distancing themselves from us if we can hold up our end of the tank.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Atlanta, Chicago, and Detroit are like 5-10 good games away from really distancing themselves from us if we can hold up our end of the tank.
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Unfortunately it looks like Washington is in a class of it's own for the tank race. They are truly awful and I don't know how they get better, in fact they are likely to get much worse once Poole starts regressing to his normal shooting numbers.

I think we are right there with Toronto who looks like our biggest competition for the two spot.

We just need to make sure that we keep out of the next group where I think 4-8 could all have very similar records and only separated by a couple of games. That is the group that likely regrets winning games in November at the end of the year.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Unfortunately it looks like Washington is in a class of it's own for the tank race. They are truly awful and I don't know how they get better, in fact they are likely to get much worse once Poole starts regressing to his normal shooting numbers.

I think we are right there with Toronto who looks like our biggest competition for the two spot.

We just need to make sure that we keep out of the next group where I think 4-8 could all have very similar records and only separated by a couple of games. That is the group that likely regrets winning games in November at the end of the year.
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If we end up anywhere from 2-4 I feel like its a win. Toronto has played a lot of close games and has been injured. So maybe? I'm less worried about where we finish 2-4 than I am about ending up 5/6 cuz we win like 4 out of 5. We have a stretch with a handful of games I am slightly concerned about winning and it will likely determine how great/poor I feel about where we are by the play in break. Dropping both SA games would be amazing but we likely split them.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Fourth best odds, I assume?

I won't be too disappointed at fourth best odds, but I think we have a great chance at 2nd or 3rd currently.
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Yes. I think we have a real shot at 2nd... would be the fav for 3 right now but I'm still worried Will works his magic and wins 4 out of 5 and we end up 6th for no reason at all. I don't think the vet trades will be available... but maybe we milk some injuries real hard in the spring.
 
TOR and NOP are as bad as us atm, but they should have guys coming back in theory and I don't think it's likely they trade away talent. Maybe NOP trades Ingram, but they'd also likely be returning talent in that trade.

CHO/DET are slightly better than us, but I think they should improve more as the season goes on. DET won't trade the vets they just acquired, and they'll also be getting Ausar back. CHO could go either way, but I don't think they will sit their young players and they should have Williams/Richards back at some point. Don't think they'll trade vets either.

BKN/POR are also better than us, but I think they will try to actively get worse. It will be hard to move vets, but Shroeder/DFS/Johnson/Claxton have to be near the top of contenders' lists. POR also has a lot of players, but they are more difficult to trade.

CHI/SAS might sneak in there, but I think we're safe.

If I were to power rank the tankers in tiers going forward, I'd do it like this:

WAS

TOR
UTA
BKN

POR
CHO
CHI
NOP
DET
SAS
 
KqWIN said:
TOR and NOP are as bad as us atm, but they should have guys coming back in theory and I don't think it's likely they trade away talent. Maybe NOP trades Ingram, but they'd also likely be returning talent in that trade.

CHO/DET are slightly better than us, but I think they should improve more as the season goes on. DET won't trade the vets they just acquired, and they'll also be getting Ausar back. CHO could go either way, but I don't think they will sit their young players and they should have Williams/Richards back at some point. Don't think they'll trade vets either.

BKN/POR are also better than us, but I think they will try to actively get worse. It will be hard to move vets, but Shroeder/DFS/Johnson/Claxton have to be near the top of contenders' lists. POR also has a lot of players, but they are more difficult to trade.

CHI/SAS might sneak in there, but I think we're safe.

If I were to power rank the tankers in tiers going forward, I'd do it like this:

WAS

TOR
UTA
BKN

POR
CHO
CHI
NOP
DET
SAS
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Why is it CHO and not CHA?
 
SoberasHotRod said:
UTA loses by 6
SAS wins by 6
BKN wins/CHA loses by 1

Does anybody have an injury status for NOP?
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I think I prefer that Brooklyn won that game as I think Charlotte is slightly better. Though I have no idea about either teams draft picks and whether they have more incentive to lose than the other.

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Udidthizz said:
Was wondering the same thing. Apparently it's the abbreviation Basketball-Reference uses to distinguish the current Hornets from the old Hornets that moved away (CHH) and the Bobcats (CHA).
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Interesting

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I can’t think of a worse outcome for the Jazz this year than drafting later than pick 5 after they cut their legs off two years in a row for Hendricks (pick 9) and Cody Williams (pick 10).
 
SoberasHotRod said:
UTA loses by 6
SAS wins by 6
BKN wins/CHA loses by 1

Does anybody have an injury status for NOP?
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Murphy is somewhat back, but rusty and doesn't play back-to-back, Ingram also out vs Cavs tonight. Alvarado, CJ McCollum, Zion, Herb Jones, Jordan Hawkins, Dejounte Murray still out. Seems like Ingram is a short-term thing, but the injury report is not great reading for a Pelicans fan (or from a tank point-of-view).

Apparently their projected starting lineup vs Cavs will have a combined salary of $8M.
 
hgb said:
Murphy is somewhat back, but rusty and doesn't play back-to-back, Ingram also out vs Cavs tonight. Alvarado, CJ McCollum, Zion, Herb Jones, Jordan Hawkins, Dejounte Murray still out. Seems like Ingram is a short-term thing, but the injury report is not great reading for a Pelicans fan (or from a tank point-of-view).

Apparently their projected starting lineup vs Cavs will have a combined salary of $8M.
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Listen... I been telling folks... these guys are a tank contender. They will wrap it up soon if they can't get half those guys back within the next 2-3 weeks.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I can’t think of a worse outcome for the Jazz this year than drafting later than pick 5 after they cut their legs off two years in a row for Hendricks (pick 9) and Cody Williams (pick 10).
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My lottery night anxiety is likely going to break me.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Listen... I been telling folks... these guys are a tank contender. They will wrap it up soon if they can't get half those guys back within the next 2-3 weeks.
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They could be, but those guys don't want to sit if they get healthy. How to keep losing then?
 
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