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2024-25 Trade Rumors Thread

Still think we can take advantage of Rockets situation as they are so stacked right now. Since Whitmore falling out of rotation, it's now Sheppard and Jabari Smith's turn to struggle for minutes. They need veterans (JC, Collins, Sexton, etc) who can lead the way for their playoff push and we can help our rebuild/tank by adding more younger players who have the potential to be good for us a few years down the road.

I wouldn't even mind Jaesean Tate, who's not in Udoka's rotation at all this season. Add some defense and toughness to the team.


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NUMBERICA said:
Damn. That would be damn near perfect for them IMO. I’ve been thinking a PnR big that brings real rim pressure and a respectable 3-ball is the one archetype of player that will pop most next to Wemby.
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Zach Collins ain't bad, but John Collins would be a really good fit with Wemby...especially with the way he's expanded his game. He's obviously been playing great in his current role, but we're not even using his best attribute which is his PnR finishing. John Collins would be a great pairing with either CP3 or Tre Jones when he comes back. It doesn't really seem like they want Wemby being a rim runner, I think you're right about them missing some pressure on the rim.

If I'm them I'm definitely just chilling and sitting on what they have versus making move towards play in contention.
 
Does Flip make Kessler more expendable? Just a question, but it makes me think back to Olynyk and how he rarely played whmith Kessler. Am I making that up? I am just going off of memory.

Also, if Flip makes Kessler more available, the jazz weren't willing to trade Kessler for two high Knick picks so I think you need a premier pick, unprotected, or multiple promising picks.

Lakers 2029 plus removing protections come in to play. I also think it is noteworthy that Sexton and Clarksons contracts are very tradeable and similar to Russels.
 
The Jazz Wonderbra said:
Does Flip make Kessler more expendable? Just a question, but it makes me think back to Olynyk and how he rarely played whmith Kessler. Am I making that up? I am just going off of memory.

Also, if Flip makes Kessler more available, the jazz weren't willing to trade Kessler for two high Knick picks so I think you need a premier pick, unprotected, or multiple promising picks.

Lakers 2029 plus removing protections come in to play. I also think it is noteworthy that Sexton and Clarksons contracts are very tradeable and similar to Russels.
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One of the Knicks picks was not really a first rounder (its Wizards top 10 protected for this year, after which it converts to a 2nd).... and the other one could also convert to a 2nd rounder and has literally no upside since its at least top 9 protected all the way.

However that Lakers deal aint happening. Pelinka is clearly in the mode where he is fake window shopping but not really buying, unless he can pull off player for player deals without involving their picks.

We may be able to leverage the 2027 pick we own down the road, and maybe get in pole position in the AD sweepstakes that are coming few years from now.. if we at that point even want to participate in such sweepstakes.
 
To add to my previous point, I think Pelinka would be willing to throw out their picks if it was for a guy like Giannis or something like that... but I dont think they would trade any of their picks for a role player no matter how glorified that role player would be.
 
The Jazz Wonderbra said:
Does Flip make Kessler more expendable? Just a question, but it makes me think back to Olynyk and how he rarely played whmith Kessler. Am I making that up? I am just going off of memory.

Also, if Flip makes Kessler more available, the jazz weren't willing to trade Kessler for two high Knick picks so I think you need a premier pick, unprotected, or multiple promising picks.

Lakers 2029 plus removing protections come in to play. I also think it is noteworthy that Sexton and Clarksons contracts are very tradeable and similar to Russels.
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No, Flip does not make Kessler expendable. They are different players.
 
HermanG said:
To add to my previous point, I think Pelinka would be willing to throw out their picks if it was for a guy like Giannis or something like that... but I dont think they would trade any of their picks for a role player no matter how glorified that role player would be.
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I believe the unwillingness to add picks to any deal that isnt a star is more from the ownership level.
 
The Jazz Wonderbra said:
Does Flip make Kessler more expendable? Just a question, but it makes me think back to Olynyk and how he rarely played whmith Kessler. Am I making that up? I am just going off of memory.

Also, if Flip makes Kessler more available, the jazz weren't willing to trade Kessler for two high Knick picks so I think you need a premier pick, unprotected, or multiple promising picks.

Lakers 2029 plus removing protections come in to play. I also think it is noteworthy that Sexton and Clarksons contracts are very tradeable and similar to Russels.
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The three big lineup is the way to go. Hardy really worked his magic with KO/Lauri/Walker last season and we were cooking for quite a while. No reason we can't repeat that same success with Filip/Lauri/Walker. We just need to upgrade our backcourt with better defense and more playmaking.
 
jom2003 said:
The three big lineup is the way to go. Hardy really worked his magic with KO/Lauri/Walker last season and we were cooking for quite a while. No reason we can't repeat that same success with Filip/Lauri/Walker. We just need to upgrade our backcourt with better defense and more playmaking.
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Can't play Kessler and Flip together. Two bigs who can't/won't shoot. Kills all spacing.
 
jom2003 said:
The three big lineup is the way to go. Hardy really worked his magic with KO/Lauri/Walker last season and we were cooking for quite a while. No reason we can't repeat that same success with Filip/Lauri/Walker. We just need to upgrade our backcourt with better defense and more playmaking.
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KO was one of our best 3P shooters, so if Hardy can make the triple tower work with Flip then its gonna look a lot different. Not saying it cant be done, but the script will be different.
 
HermanG said:
To add to my previous point, I think Pelinka would be willing to throw out their picks if it was for a guy like Giannis or something like that... but I dont think they would trade any of their picks for a role player no matter how glorified that role player would be.
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I think that might've been their intention but they don't have nearly enough draft capital/assets to trade for such a star player. AD and Lebron despite his age are both still playing like superstars which they also proved during the Olympics. Either they trade their picks for high end roleplayers or they just settle for not winning anymore rings during this current AD/LBJ era. Those guys along with Reaves and Knecht are playing way too many minutes and need help. They have a solid top 4 but desperately need a defensive big to take the load off AD and also need bench help as it's obvious DLo and his bad attitude has already fallen out of favor with Redick.

FWIW I don't believe Flip makes Kessler more "expendable" but I would say that he has more of the offensive skillset they might be looking for in a big. Tough to say but my hunch is they aren't completely sold on Kessler as a long term franchise piece.
 
HermanG said:
KO was one of our best 3P shooters, so if Hardy can make the triple tower work with Flip then its gonna look a lot different. Not saying it cant be done, but the script will be different.
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Agreed. KO and Flip are a bit similar but KO's game was mostly out at the 3 pt line and he could make them consistently if not defended.

It would likely be a bit more clunky to fit Flip and Kessler on the floor together. That's the Jazz roster in a nutshell this season. None of the parts match in either the front or backcourts.
 
HeatCheck said:
Agreed. KO and Flip are a bit similar but KO's game was mostly out at the 3 pt line and he could make them consistently if not defended.

It would likely be a bit more clunky to fit Flip and Kessler on the floor together. That's the Jazz roster in a nutshell this season. None of the parts match in either the front or backcourts.
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The main difference is Filipowski is much more athletic than KO.

I still think the main path for improvement for Filipowski is strength more so than shooting. Even if teams are sagging off him at the 3pt line because he doesnt want to/cant be a volume shooter, his danger lies in the DHO games and his ability to get downhill with his coordination/playmaking.
 
HermanG said:
KO was one of our best 3P shooters, so if Hardy can make the triple tower work with Flip then its gonna look a lot different. Not saying it cant be done, but the script will be different.
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KO was a good shooter, but he was never a volume shooter.

The big skill jump is being able to operate at the 3pt line simultaneously as a shooting threat and a hub. Right now Filipowski is catching it and looking to make plays, so he isnt shot ready.
 
HeatCheck said:
I think that might've been their intention but they don't have nearly enough draft capital/assets to trade for such a star player. AD and Lebron despite his age are both still playing like superstars which they also proved during the Olympics. Either they trade their picks for high end roleplayers or they just settle for not winning anymore rings during this current AD/LBJ era. Those guys along with Reaves and Knecht are playing way too many minutes and need help. They have a solid top 4 but desperately need a defensive big to take the load off AD and also need bench help as it's obvious DLo and his bad attitude has already fallen out of favor with Redick.

FWIW I don't believe Flip makes Kessler more "expendable" but I would say that he has more of the offensive skillset they might be looking for in a big. Tough to say but my hunch is they aren't completely sold on Kessler as a long term franchise piece.
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The projected upside of owning their draft from 2028 to 2031 would be very high. Steal Knecht and Reaves in the process and I dont know how those picks turn into anything but premium ones.

Still not enough for Giannis probably though.
 
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