2024-25 Trade Rumors Thread

[KqWIN]

I mean, Lauri just hasn't been good this year.

The issue with Collins is that any team that gets him is immediately not very good on defense as he's just way too small to play center. I can't think of a team trying to win that has the contracts to get Collins and where Collins would be a good fit.

Don’t know if you’ve noticed, but Collins has played even better as a 4 this year and about half of his minutes have come that way.

This doesn’t mean he has good trade value, but we should at least acknowledge the season that is happening in front of our eyes.

 

[Hedda Gambler]

I mean, Lauri just hasn't been good this year.

The issue with Collins is that any team that gets him is immediately not very good on defense as he's just way too small to play center. I can't think of a team trying to win that has the contracts to get Collins and where Collins would be a good fit.

You don`t think he would look good next to AD? They have Hachimura and Vincent that combined cover Collins` salary.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Think the Jazz need some fortuitous luck (like someone getting injured for the season) on a team like the Clippers. If DJJ goes down with an achilles tear or something.

While Collins has solid value, it's still a big contract that teams just dont want to pay to that level of player if they arent in some kind of desperate circumstance.

 

[HadAnEffectHere]

You don`t think he would look good next to AD? They have Hachimura and Vincent that combined cover Collins` salary.

The Lakers are 26th in defense and would aim for different targets and I don't know why we would trade for those guys as Vincent isn't an NBA player and those contracts are pretty long.

 

[fishonjazz]

Clarkson is completely untradeable.

Sexton can probably get 2-3 seconds.

Collins would take attaching 2-3 seconds to dump.

Agree to disagree

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Don’t know if you’ve noticed, but Collins has played even better as a 4 this year and about half of his minutes have come that way.

This doesn’t mean he has good trade value, but we should at least acknowledge the season that is happening in front of our eyes.

There are a few things that made him kind of a tweener and his shooting getting good and more diverse (Less of his 3s are coming from the corner as a % of his three point attempts) is one of the things that alleviates his concerns as a 4. He isn't going to be good guarding some of the more perimeter oriented 4s but if you can play him with a non-shooter at the 5 because he can shoot so well... some of those concerns go away. If he keeps getting better the tweener label becomes versatile... maybe?

I am bought in enough that if we don't get decent value you just keep him. An expiring deal and a second round pick or two is what I'd set the bar at (if I was management and looking to move him). If not just hold. He may even opt out and give you some options to retain him or sign and trade him.

I also enjoy watching him play so that a little light in this dark season.

 

[KqWIN]

There are a few things that made him kind of a tweener and his shooting getting good and more diverse (Less of his 3s are coming from the corner as a % of his three point attempts) is one of the things that alleviates his concerns as a 4. He isn't going to be good guarding some of the more perimeter oriented 4s but if you can play him with a non-shooter at the 5 because he can shoot so well... some of those concerns go away. If he keeps getting better the tweener label becomes versatile... maybe?

I am bought in enough that if we don't get decent value you just keep him. An expiring deal and a second round pick or two is what I'd set the bar at (if I was management and looking to move him). If not just hold. He may even opt out and give you some options to retain him or sign and trade him.

I also enjoy watching him play so that a little light in this dark season.

I think he’s just fine as a defender at the 4 (he was really tough in those ATL playoff runs) and this year he’s also improved as a defender at the 5. John has definitely improved his stock as a player, but unfortunately that doesn’t necessarily mean the market is more favorable to him. I think he could help a ton of teams right now but the logistics of a trade are hard. I still think SAC is the best fit and we can reroute Huerter who is easier to fit elsewhere.

I am just fine keeping him, would not pay anything to get off of him. I would understand a straight dump if the opportunity presented itself, but I’d keep him over Sexton.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I think he’s just fine as a defender at the 4 (he was really tough in those ATL playoff runs) and this year he’s also improved as a defender at the 5. John has definitely improved his stock as a player, but unfortunately that doesn’t necessarily mean the market is more favorable to him. I think he could help a ton of teams right now but the logistics of a trade are hard. I still think SAC is the best fit and we can reroute Huerter who is easier to fit elsewhere.

I am just fine keeping him, would not pay anything to get off of him. I would understand a straight dump if the opportunity presented itself, but I’d keep him over Sexton.

I'm probably just keeping him. I think on defense its the perimeter types. Like he was trying to guard Derozan and that just ain't it. He's mostly fine there and does some playmaking on defense. Any bigger contract is tough to move. If a Jimmy deal happens I can see us being a third team and Collins heading to Miami or some 4th team. I'd say there is a 80% chance he stays on the roster mostly due to logistics of a trade.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

I mean, Lauri just hasn't been good this year.

The issue with Collins is that any team that gets him is immediately not very good on defense as he's just way too small to play center. I can't think of a team trying to win that has the contracts to get Collins and where Collins would be a good fit.

I remember after Lauri's first year here everyone thought he would keep getting better and better. And I said we'd be lucky to just get a repeat of that season.

As of now, that first year with us is looking like his career outlier.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Im still holding out hope for the Clippers.

Powell/Harden/Kawhi/Collins/Zubac is a contending starting 5 if they are all healthy (huge if).

 

[homeytennis]

I remember after Lauri's first year here everyone thought he would keep getting better and better. And I said we'd be lucky to just get a repeat of that season.

As of now, that first year with us is looking like his career outlier.

He had quite a bit of help that first year he does not have now.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

He had quite a bit of help that first year he does not have now.

Its weird that a guy who:

- Is trying new things to self create and become a playmaker
- Has no good playmaker or other offensive threat to allow him to do what he is ELITE at
- Has had a nagging back injury
- Has a newborn

is struggling a bit. Normally a guy would totally thrive in that situation.

I have zero concerns on Lauri as long as the back thing isn't long term. That's the only noticeable thing imo is he has a bit less lift at the rim imo.

 

[KqWIN]

Sexton makes a ton of sense for the Clippers and is much easier for them to match salaries. They really need to improve on those KPJ minutes.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Sexton makes a ton of sense for the Clippers and is much easier for them to match salaries. They really need to improve on those KPJ minutes.

They are basically all the way tapped regarding draft assets, IIRC. If they wanna cough up ‘31 with minimal protections then fine, maybe, but I doubt they would.

I don’t think trading Sexton makes very much sense unless someone throws out an unexpected offer and he is killing the tank. I don’t see either thing happening.

I’d be eyeing trading up using Key on draft night.

 

[KqWIN]

They are basically all the way tapped regarding draft assets, IIRC. If they wanna cough up ‘31 with minimal protections then fine, maybe, but I doubt they would.

I don’t think trading Sexton makes very much sense unless someone throws out an unexpected offer and he is killing the tank. I don’t see either thing happening.

I’d be eyeing trading up using Key on draft night.

I don't expect Sexton to get much if anything at all. I don't really see a future for him beyond his current deal, so I wouldn't mind shipping him out for expiring salary.

FWIW Clarkson would also theoretically fill their bench scoring need, and he has the power of friendship so it's not totally unrealistic.

 

[HeatCheck]

I don't expect Sexton to get much if anything at all. I don't really see a future for him beyond his current deal, so I wouldn't mind shipping him out for expiring salary.

FWIW Clarkson would also theoretically fill their bench scoring need, and he has the power of friendship so it's not totally unrealistic.

I'd easily trade JC for expirings but would need some kind of asset/young prospect for Sexton. He's clearly better than the KPJ or Cole Anthony types who are getting legit rotation minutes on playoff teams. If the Magic had anything better than Cole Anthony coming off their bench they would be playing in Vegas this weekend.

 

[FrenchJazzFa]

Trade will come soon. Some team really performed far from their expectations and will have to make some adjustment. Don't think we see really big trade ( except Butler?) but lot of medium, low salary one. Aprons make things really complicated or impossible for many teams.

Hope we find a way to trade 2 or 3 players.

 

[The Jazz Wonderbra]

I keep mixing up collins and Collin Sexton on peeps comments.

Collin Sexton for a 2nd round and expiring feels weak. Collins for a young players, a second round pick, and an expiring feels way more exciting.

 

[The Jazz Wonderbra]

John Collins could be the main piece in an Ingram trade if Ingram changed his tune.

I know, I know, Ingram doesnt want to play in Utah. I am just saying that Collins has gone from Negative Value where we basically got him for a 2nd round pick... to being a pretty value contract worth keeping around and who would be a positive add to most rosters.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

John Collins could be the main piece in an Ingram trade if Ingram changed his tune.

I have zero interest in trading for him in this year or any year