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Aaron Gordon, a No. 5 Pick?

And Wiggins is no go-to scoring alpha dog either. There's a lot to like about Gordon. I can't believe the 180 I've done on him.

The same was said about Durant before he was drafted. The system Wiggins played in didn't suit him for one.
 
How is it a reach? His athleticism is on par w/ Wiggins, and he has a ton of important skills Wiggins doesn't have (passing & handles). The separator is shooting (which Wiggins isn't lights out at), but if A. Gordon is really improving his shot (which is what has been reported from those who've seen the workouts), isn't no. 5 incredible value?

If you believe he can't ever shoot, 5 is a reach, but if you believe he can, how is he not more appealing than Smart, Vonleh, or Randle?

Well he can't shoot right now, which isn't a great sign. Players usually don't improve a ton on that aspect, Gordon will probably never be a great shooter.
 
Well he can't shoot right now, which isn't a great sign. Players usually don't improve a ton on that aspect, Gordon will probably never be a great shooter.

But according to scouts, even our own pres. Of basketball operations, he already is improving as a shooter.

Take away his FT% in college, and would you still consider him a horrible shooter?

FT's and jumpers are two different shots. One is set, while the other uses one's legs in the shooting motion. Isn't it entirely possible to be good at one, yet horrible at the other, if your forms for them were different?

Think about Trey Burke. The exact opposite thing happened on our own team last year. Trey was absolutely lethal from the FT line w/ his set shot, but his jumper was flat and he shot a piss-poor % from the field.

A. Gordon has recognized the problem, been putting in the work to fix it, and now the scouts are saying that work is paying off.
 
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The same was said about Durant before he was drafted. The system Wiggins played in didn't suit him for one.

Wait...what the? Durant averaged 25 pts and 11 reb in college. He was very much considered a scorer. Wiggins will be good but he's no Durant.
 
Well he can't shoot right now, which isn't a great sign. Players usually don't improve a ton on that aspect, Gordon will probably never be a great shooter.

This is also not true. There are plenty if examples of players that are bad shooters and become good ones. Kawhi Leonard is a known example.


Does that mean AG will be one of the ones that will get better? I'm willing to bet on that. After all he did hit 35% from 3. It's his midrange that needs the most attention.

He may never get better like AK didn't but I just like the rest about him and I'm more willing to live with his weaknesses than Vonlehs and Smarts.
 
The same was said about Durant before he was drafted. The system Wiggins played in didn't suit him for one.

Hey, don't get me wrong - I'd love to have Wiggins, but still, the knock on him has been that he doesn't have that Kobe-esque killer instinct to take over games in the clutch.
But he'll still be great I think. BUT if Gordon improves his shot maybe he's better than Wuggins. ? I know that seems crazy to wonder since Wiggs is in the first tier and Gordon's squarely in tier two. But adding up + and - = I don't know which I'd choose. Isn't that crazy? I don't know who I like better out of Gordon and Wiggins. Yeah, crazy.
 
I've gotta say the more I hear about Gordon and the more I read your guys posts about him, the more I like. Originally I didn't really want him because we need a scorer, but the odds are very unlikely that we somehow get Jabari, so he's beginning to be my pick. I like his confidence and attitude too

Having watched a good bit of the Jazz games offensive personnel wasn't nearly as big of an issue as coaching and defensive personnel IMO.
 
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Also.....after watching Leonard tonight, I'm convinced DL will take Gordon at 5 as long as the top 4 goes as planned. Out of the 4 guys (Gordon, Vonleh, Smart, Randle) being considered at the 5 spot, I see Gordon and possibly Smart as the most Spurs-esque picks.
 
Also.....after watching Leonard tonight, I'm convinced DL will take Gordon at 5 as long as the top 4 goes as planned. Out of the 4 guys (Gordon, Vonleh, Smart, Randle) being considered at the 5 spot, I see Gordon and possibly Smart as the most Spurs-esque picks.

Marcus Smart and Julius Randle are out of the question atleast for now, whether or not they should be is a different topic.

Right now I think it is Gordon vs. Vonleh for #5, not sure if the Jazz would take Exum if he fell to #5, but Chad Ford definitely thinks so.

Reports of Gordon already improving his shot and Vonleh being out of shape, is certainly helping out Gordon.
 
Also.....after watching Leonard tonight, I'm convinced DL will take Gordon at 5 as long as the top 4 goes as planned. Out of the 4 guys (Gordon, Vonleh, Smart, Randle) being considered at the 5 spot, I see Gordon and possibly Smart as the most Spurs-esque picks.

Impossible to know how Spurs draft with elite talent available (since they are never in the top of the lottery), other than getting Duncan and Robinson.

Actually think they would go Vonleh as the heir to Duncan.
 
Gotta have somebody who can defend against LeBron, 'Melo and Durant if you want to go anywhere. Gordon has that potential. If he can develop an offensive game he's an A+ prospect. I'd still take Parker if I can get him, but Aaron Gordon has a legitimate chance to be special.
 
Impossible to know how Spurs draft with elite talent available (since they are never in the top of the lottery), other than getting Duncan and Robinson.

Actually think they would go Vonleh as the heir to Duncan.

If I recall correctly, the Spurs were offering George Hill to the Bucks, Warriors, and Jazz for the #10, #11, or #12 pick but weren't coveting Kawhi Leonard it was Klay Thompson. Once Klay was taken at #11, the Spurs then directed their focus to Leonard.
 
Fwiw and not sure if already mentioned, Kawhi was considered a limited shooter in college.

He shot 20% from the 3pt line his Freshman year, so he was really limited range wise. Can't really comment to much o his offensive game other than I remember he really relied on his physicality (rather than Gordon who relies more on athletic ability) in a weaker conference.

Leonard actually tested out really poorly in his vertical testing, surprisingly bad.
 
He shot 20% from the 3pt line his Freshman year, so he was really limited range wise. Can't really comment to much o his offensive game other than I remember he really relied on his physicality (rather than Gordon who relies more on athletic ability) in a weaker conference.

Leonard actually tested out really poorly in his vertical testing, surprisingly bad.

He was drafted off of length, defensive ability and upside. Sounds familiar.
 
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