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Anyone know when Alec Burks is returning to the line up?

Handlogten's Heros said:
I also think the new CBA will make it harder for small markets to compete...
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Why is that? Seems like most of the changes they made (for example stiffer luxury tax penalties and more revenue sharing) were designed to do the opposite.

The only remaining thing that in my opinion makes it really hard for small markets is having max salaries. That means that if you don't have one of the top 5 players in the league you are paying the #6 - #30 (or so) players in the league as if they WERE top 5 players in the league. And that combined wit the cap & luxury tax really makes it tough on anyone who doesn't have one of the top 5 players.
 
colton said:
Why is that? Seems like most of the changes they made (for example stiffer luxury tax penalties and more revenue sharing) were designed to do the opposite.

The only remaining thing that in my opinion makes it really hard for small markets is having max salaries. That means that if you don't have one of the top 5 players in the league you are paying the #6 - #30 (or so) players in the league as if they WERE top 5 players in the league. And that combined wit the cap & luxury tax really makes it tough on anyone who doesn't have one of the top 5 players.
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At first I balked at removing the player maximum salary, but now I want the player maximums to be eliminated. I see it as the only way the jazz will be able to compete. In this scenario every team gets a regulated amount to spend (salary Cap), a team can spend it all on a super star, and role players or a team can pay respectable amounts to a few quality players that compete as a team.
 
colton said:
Why is that? Seems like most of the changes they made (for example stiffer luxury tax penalties and more revenue sharing) were designed to do the opposite.

The only remaining thing that in my opinion makes it really hard for small markets is having max salaries. That means that if you don't have one of the top 5 players in the league you are paying the #6 - #30 (or so) players in the league as if they WERE top 5 players in the league. And that combined wit the cap & luxury tax really makes it tough on anyone who doesn't have one of the top 5 players.
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mellow said:
At first I balked at removing the player maximum salary, but now I want the player maximums to be eliminated. I see it as the only way the jazz will be able to compete. In this scenario every team gets a regulated amount to spend (salary Cap), a team can spend it all on a super star, and role players or a team can pay respectable amounts to a few quality players that compete as a team.
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A hard cap like that would certainly help the small market teams immensely. But even with a soft cap, removing max salary limits would help a whole lot.
 
colton said:
Why is that? Seems like most of the changes they made (for example stiffer luxury tax penalties and more revenue sharing) were designed to do the opposite.

The only remaining thing that in my opinion makes it really hard for small markets is having max salaries. That means that if you don't have one of the top 5 players in the league you are paying the #6 - #30 (or so) players in the league as if they WERE top 5 players in the league. And that combined wit the cap & luxury tax really makes it tough on anyone who doesn't have one of the top 5 players.
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Just the sheer volume of the payroll increases and I believe there is a timing difference between when bigger revenue trickles in and when we have to cut checks. I think the larger cap just exaggerates the current issues for small markets. Much of the new revenue is shared through tv deals and such but our payroll goes up by 50-75% and I don't think our revenues will follow in proportion. Big markets get the benefit of great local tv deals and have less price pressure on tickets and such.

Basically BRI is not equally distributed but the cap is the same for every team... Making that cap even higher hurts those that are getting less revenue. Basically I think the gap will increase even more. Also factor in that contenders and market destinations get the vets on cheap deals and market discounts on players like David west Joe Johnson and other types I can't recall right now.

I also think the uncertainty and large dollar amounts scare owners who aren't mega billionaires
 
NAOS said:
Is Alec Burks dead?
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He's close... Favs was close for a month. Meanwhile please enjoy the poop layer cakkk that is Johnson and ingles.
 
mellow said:
At first I balked at removing the player maximum salary, but now I want the player maximums to be eliminated. I see it as the only way the jazz will be able to compete. In this scenario every team gets a regulated amount to spend (salary Cap), a team can spend it all on a super star, and role players or a team can pay respectable amounts to a few quality players that compete as a team.
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This is my wish
 
It's too late. Gobert and Burks should pack it in, get healthy. Nothing to hurry back for going on.
 
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I was told he was healed. I don't get what's the holdup. Initially he was supposed to be back with surgury in 6 weeks. It's going to be double for whatever reason.

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Our excuses for why we suck, suck worse than the Jazz. Because Exum and Burks are out, we aren't that great? Give me a break. The Clips have torn **** up without Blake Griffin.
 
Cunning Linguist said:
Our excuses for why we suck, suck worse than the Jazz. Because Exum and Burks are out, we aren't that great? Give me a break. The Clips have torn **** up without Blake Griffin.
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They are a veteran team that knows how to play the game. We are the fourth youngest team still trying to figure things out.

They play with a lot of consistency where as we are very erratic due to all of the youth. Believe it or not, we'd be more consistent with Exum, and let's also not forget that Gobert and Favors were out at the same time for a decent amount of time.

I also remember the Jazz doing fine and not missing a beat when Stockton was out for a period of time one year, and same with Malone when he'd miss a game here or there. They knew the system inside and out and were a well oiled machine. This team isn't. Hopefully they get there.

I said when Exum went down this would be a problem for us having too many bad stretches in games and throughout the season. This wasn't unexpected for me. Just didn't think we'd have this big a problem with injuries.
 
Cunning Linguist said:
Our excuses for why we suck, suck worse than the Jazz. Because Exum and Burks are out, we aren't that great? Give me a break. The Clips have torn **** up without Blake Griffin.
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They do have the guy who was widely considered the best PG before Steph Curry emerged.
 
King Cy said:
They do have the guy who was widely considered the best PG before Steph Curry emerged.
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Let me get this straight. They have Chris Paul and got better when Griffin went down so that makes sense but once Exum/Burks went down for us, we were ****ed?
 
Other teams have a GM who believes in having a quality bench. They have owners who believe in spending money to field a playoff team. We don't. DL has restricted himself to shopping at the Dollar Tree to fill out the team. The Jazz' payroll is 28th in the league (AGAIN).
 
Stifle Tower said:
Other teams have a GM who believes in having a quality bench. They have owners who believe in spending money to field a playoff team. We don't. DL has restricted himself to shopping at the Dollar Tree to fill out the team. The Jazz' payroll is 28th in the league (AGAIN).
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So many small moves would have made a huge difference... Jared Dudley, omri casspi, Cory Joseph, teletovic, didn't have to be nordstroms but hell let's at least walk the aisles of wal mart... Instead we went to whatever dollar store the have in Europe and got Neto and Pleiss.
 
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