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Ben's take on ROY

Ron Mexico said:
Yep, and thats why its hard to take any of your opinions of any aussie players serious. Its a little ridiculous to claim Simmons has a higher ceiling than Embiid. It is straight up bat **** crazy to argue that Simmons is better than Embiid already. But both of you think Simmons is going to be better than Lebron so I guess ill just take your posts on this subject with humor. Probably the same as both of you take real Jazz fans opinions on Jazz players :)
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Never said he was going to be better than LeBron!?

What is a real Jazz fan?

You need a connection to a team. I am a fan of the Jazz. I hope they win it all. The Aussie connection drew me here, and like many people who follow sports teams, I will remain a fan once that connection expires. Never could follow the Bucks or Warriors with Bogut, or Mills with the Spurs etc. This team has a very high degree of awesomeness to it... independent of the Aussies.

It is true, I would love the Jazz to beat the Sixers in the Finals with Aussie Ben having a mighty series. But that is the ambivalence of fandom which takes a lot of its inspiration from national players.

Let me ask you this, do you never root harder for teams overseas that have a 'local' connection? Human nature I'm guessing. Basic instinct.
 
Et tu Brute said:
Never said he was going to be better than LeBron!?

What is a real Jazz fan?

You need a connection to a team. I am a fan of the Jazz. I hope they win it all. The Aussie connection drew me here, and like many people who follow sports teams, I will remain a fan once that connection expires. Never could follow the Bucks or Warriors with Bogut, or Mills with the Spurs etc. This team has a very high degree of awesomeness to it... independent of the Aussies.

It is true, I would love the Jazz to beat the Sixers in the Finals with Aussie Ben having a mighty series. But that is the ambivalence of fandom which takes a lot of its inspiration from national players.

Let me ask you this, do you never root harder for teams overseas that have a 'local' connection? Human nature I'm guessing. Basic instinct.
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I was mostly just teasing you.

No, I dont care about local connections playing overseas. But that is just me.

As far as a real fan goes I would actually just let a person define their own fandom and however you want to enjoy sports or have rooting interest go for it. Although most would say you are only a true fan if you stick to your team even if your "player" leaves.

I guess it was UtahJazzz that said he would be better than Lebron. But do you think he has a higher ceiling than Lebron or think he could get to that level? Either way you are far to high on him but you care about him on a personal level so that makes sense.
 
Ron Mexico said:
Yep, and thats why its hard to take any of your opinions of any aussie players serious. Its a little ridiculous to claim Simmons has a higher ceiling than Embiid. It is straight up bat **** crazy to argue that Simmons is better than Embiid already. But both of you think Simmons is going to be better than Lebron so I guess ill just take your posts on this subject with humor. Probably the same as both of you take real Jazz fans opinions on Jazz players :)
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Ron Mexico said:
I was mostly just teasing you.

No, I dont care about local connections playing overseas. But that is just me.

As far as a real fan goes I would actually just let a person define their own fandom and however you want to enjoy sports or have rooting interest go for it. Although most would say you are only a true fan if you stick to your team even if your "player" leaves.

I guess it was UtahJazzz that said he would be better than Lebron. But do you think he has a higher ceiling than Lebron or think he could get to that level? Either way you are far to high on him but you care about him on a personal level so that makes sense.
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Ron don’t take UtahJazz seriously, I think he’s about 12 years old.
 
Et tu Brute said:
C'mon Rub. You and I both know that Ingles is a total ****** when on the court. He is the definition of trash talking. That is how Aussies are though. Rough and dirty in the battle - meek and mild off the court. Simmons is more brash - like my perception of many elite US athletes, but like them - keeps it ice cool on the court.
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I wish we still executed people for treason.
 
How did this turn to Aussie trashing... this is about Ben not acknowledging DM. I think Ben's stats say he is the ROY but I think DM could win it because people like him more. I predict it is much closer than Philly fans will like.
 
What would the Jazz record be in the East? What about 76ers in the West? Would 76ers be a playoff team in the West?

Their record and position has a large influence on a lot of people in voting. I think it has had a negative impact on the Jazz since they have been out of the playoff picture until recently.
 
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