Hotdog
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It's a team game. He was only a freshman. Teams started focusing on him.
But ya, go ahead nitpick.
How far did any of the other top prospects go in the tourney?
Oh that's right.
make good points please.
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It's a team game. He was only a freshman. Teams started focusing on him.
But ya, go ahead nitpick.
How far did any of the other top prospects go in the tourney?
Oh that's right.
make good points please.
As a Mormon, I'd prefer the Jazz draft who helps us win a title. I think that player is Jabari. If Jabari was a Catholic, a Jew, an agnostic, or a Muslim, but was still the same fundamental person, I'd still take him. And with as much enthusiasm. Nearly every year there has been a player or two I'd love us to land. None of those guys have ever been Mormon. By coincidence, this year that person is.
Stifle Tower
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Why did Coach K bench Jabari so much in the last part of games?
Randle went to the finals. Wiggins won at least one or two games (can't remember) beside Embiid was hurt. Sorry I didn't know you were so sensitive. What good points have you made?
Yeah, you're right. Let's wait until he is taken 2nd or 3rd then try to trade for him.
Is it possible to pick Jabari and have it not be a religious issue? The way I see it is we need:
1. A SF
2. A legit scorer
3. Someone who can hit a jumpshot
I suppose we could always draft McDermott...
Vonleh couldn't even lead his team to the NIT, so are we holding that against him? No. So why are we holding losing in the 1st-round of the NCAA Tournament against Jabari?
orangello
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I want talent too. I'm just no as high on Jabari as others are. I certainly agree with what you are saying though.
Hack, you should put your mormon glasses away. You are being way oversensitive here. I was NOT comparing them as a player. There games are not alike at all. Yes both are mormon and both are popular with the mormon crowd. My comparison was that both are tweeners, not the same positions but both guys you look at and say what position are they? Jimmer not a PG but too small/slow to be a SG. Parker not a SF too slow and not big enough to be a PF.
I never said they would have similar careers. I actually like Jabari but I have serious concerns if he has a real position. Because of these concerns I wouldn't sell the farm to get him. I could be wrong but don't act like I haven't made any good points or that I made a bad comparison which I haven't. You don't have to agree with me but your snide comments only make you seem childish.
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He is a stretch four.
Like terrence jones, ryan anderson, chris bosh, carmello (at times), paul pierce (this year)
Hotdog
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Lol.
I'm not even mormon bro..
That's my point. His religion has nothing to do with this. So comparing the situation to Jimmer is dumb. When talk was going around about drafting Jimmer, I had the same point as you.
I'm saying draft Jabari because I believe he is the real deal. I'm not all caught up on his supposed weight issues. Or if he is a tweener. He clearly is not. He handles the ball and shoots the ball like a sf. He is a sf.
Well I would be saying the same thing if Simmons was proposing the same trade to move up to get Randle/Vonleh because I don't think the talent difference between the top 7 players is that great. I value Burks more than most of the people wanting Parker. I see some franchises just throwing away picks and then later not having any when there are good drafts.
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Well I am sorry I was wrong about religion influencing you but it does other people. SO we just disagree. You think Parker is better than I do. I certainly think he is a tweener on defense. Unless he loses weight, right now I don't see him being able to guard SF or PF.
yes I mentioned both were mormon but that wasn't why I was comparing them. I was comparing them because I think they both are tweeners. Again it is obvious that we disagree. I agree that religion shouldn't be a part of the decision so we agree on that.
Where we don't agree is that it does influence some people and that is why they want Parker more than other players. Nothing wrong with that but I think an organization would be stupid if they did what Simmons implies the Jazz would do in his trade conversation. I don't think the Jazz think like that.
I agree he is a stretch four but can he guard a four. Do you think he could guard Kanter down low? Do you think he could guard fast/quick SF?
Is it possible for a Mormon to prefer Jabari independent of religious affiliation?
orangello
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I agree. Jabari is an elite scorer, but he couldn't even guard college forwards. He was so much of a LIABILITY, Coach K. decided the team was better off NOT having him in the lineup at the end of games. He wasn't even a "franchise player" in college. Maybe a better comp for Jabari is Boozer. He'll score, but he'll give up more on the other end. Certainly you draft him if he's there at #5, but you don't give up three other key assets to move up 2-3 spots to get him.